Don’t worry, just a little bump - $70 is just around the corner. Short traders just keep making those margin calls, mortgage the house if you have to. Fortunes await you! PO is for pansies and doomers. At $70 short some more ..... it is going back to $22 .... the world is awash with oil ........ reality has nothing to do with it, its all in those charts!!!!!!!!!!
Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 3679 Location: over here
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: longer thread titles
I've run into this problem a couple of times now; having a title for a thread that just won't fit in the title bar and not being able to put it in other words without having to leave out "essential" information about the thread; then having to resort to abbreviations and 'bad' English.
I think allowing the title to be longer by 6-10 characters would root out 95% of these cases. Can this be done? _________________ "The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time."
Joined: Sep 25, 2004 Posts: 4392 Location: Boston, MA
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: longer thread titles
I believe the problem is that regardless of how long we allow the titles to be, someone will always be 3 characters short...
Also, I think we might have a limit as to the amount of text we want on thread titles, lest we risk warping the current look of the forum.
It's the same problem on TeamSpeak.
If we allow people to have super-long names, they will widen the left hand box and mess up the forum. _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse."
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6089 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: longer thread titles
I think the title length limit is adequate. Longer titles are not necessarily better titles; in fact, usually they communicate poorly. Some people try to cram everything plus the kitchen sink into titles. That benefits no one. Think of a pithy "handle" for a forum and leave the details for the initial post. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
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Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 3679 Location: over here
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:41 am Post subject: Re: longer thread titles
Well, I find them a bit short, also compared to other forums I visit.
Concerning warping the look; with the current length of titles it's already possible two have a two line title, however the second line will never contain more than two words due to the current limit of characters. _________________ "The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time."
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6089 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: Re: longer thread titles
What we're discussing here is just a basic principle of journalism, Bas, or for that matter writing at large.
A title is not supposed to inform, it's supposed to label the subject, and hook the reader (cleverly and creatively, if possible). Detailed, verbose titles turn readers off, and may send them elsewhere. The only exception I can think of is those mile-long titles you see in scientific journals when the subject is so abstruse and narrow that a long title becomes necessary . . . if remaining repugnant. Even then, good editors pare out the fluff. And there is almost always fluff. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
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---Me and my brother
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Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6089 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: Re: longer thread titles
Well, looks like you got your way, Bas?
The box for titles on the home page looks much wider . . . unfortunately scrunching up the rest of the page from left to right and creating a lot of wasted white space.
Now you can make your titles as looooooooooong and wooooooooordy as you want. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6089 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: Re: longer thread titles
Now the home page is back to the way it was before. Much better. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 3679 Location: over here
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:34 am Post subject: Re: longer thread titles
Heineken wrote:
What we're discussing here is just a basic principle of journalism, Bas, or for that matter writing at large.
A title is not supposed to inform, it's supposed to label the subject, and hook the reader (cleverly and creatively, if possible). Detailed, verbose titles turn readers off, and may send them elsewhere. The only exception I can think of is those mile-long titles you see in scientific journals when the subject is so abstruse and narrow that a long title becomes necessary . . . if remaining repugnant. Even then, good editors pare out the fluff. And there is almost always fluff.
you can exagurate Heineken, I posted this as a suggestion and was only asking for an increase of at most two words.... _________________ "The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time."
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6089 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: longer thread titles
Partly I'se jez funnin' wit'cha, Bas.
Seriously, though, I think the current length limit is already generous. That's just my opinion, of course. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 3679 Location: over here
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: longer thread titles
How are you anyway, Heineken, it's been a while since I ran into you... _________________ "The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time."
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6089 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: longer thread titles
Well, I've maintained a presence here, Bas, although not an obsessive-compulsive one. Guess we're just going to different places on the site.
Right now we're having an ice storm. Usually, these result in the loss of electric power as overloaded trees and branches collapse. In a bad storm it's possible to lose for power over a week.
Whenever the lights go out it's a good object lesson for me in future realities. Candles and buckets of water are standing by.
Thanks for your patience in coping with my exaggerations (kindly note spelling) and general muckraking.
Hope all is well there in "Neverland." _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
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