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Licho
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 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Halloween in Europe? |
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Well that Nicholas is indeed dressed like a bishop or pope (often with impressive papal stick and crown) so I guess it represents the same historical bishop. But no socks or presents at nichola's day,
It probably somehow evolved to Santa Claus and moved to christmas day.. weird.. |
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rogerhb
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Halloween in Europe? |
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| Licho wrote: | | It probably somehow evolved to Santa Claus and moved to christmas day.. weird.. |
Technically he always was Santa Claus, that's just a literal thing.
The classic story of St Nick had him giving money to some daughters who could not get married because they had no dowry.
How he came to be coming down chimneys and saying ho-ho-ho are something different.
Our classic view of him wearing a red coat comes from Coke.
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Daculling
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| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Halloween in Europe? |
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| Daculling wrote: |
One more thing... I can't figure out if Guy Faux is the hero or the villian, or both. |
It has been a year since I posed this question and I never got an answer. It seems that the traditional burning in effigy of Guy Fawkes is not really being done anymore (please correct). I've been thinking about this for a while and have determined that Faux is both a hero and a villain depending upon your political position. Currently for me he is a hero... Then again I just saw V For Vendetta so I might be a little clouded here.
Hey, Happy Halloween Europe. Dress scary or the ghosts will get you!
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daithicarr
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Halloween in Europe? |
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Halloween is an irish/Gaelic festival, it was celebrated in ireland well before the dvent of christianity and most likely introduced to America by the millions of irish people that went there, ( i belive some 10% of americans are irish americans) , more recently the americanised verion
of the holiday has been reitroduced into Ireland.
I remember my grandparetns telling me that its purpose was, the other world and ours were closest at this time of year and that the malitious spirits of the dead would travel over to our side and wreack havoc, so we would dress up in masks and scarey costumes made of grass or hay and scare them back across, the bonefire were lit for some reason of purity or something i cant recal. But now its completley americanised,so much that about 60-70% of Irish people probably belive its an American festival. |
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Slx
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: Re: Halloween in Europe? |
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| The tradition resembling Halloween here (northern Belgium) probably is "Driekoningen" (Three Kings) on the sixth of January. Children dress up as the three kings from the east that visited Jesus. They go door to door, sing a song and get candy or money. Doors that stay closed are typically given a 'pennypincher! pennypincher!' tantrum. When there are lots of children involved the three that get to dress up are selected by baking a cake with three beans in it and giving everyone a piece. |
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Bas
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Halloween in Europe? |
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| sameu wrote: | halloween sucks big time
really
it suck
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And I'll never participate in any of the fake crap related to halloween |
It looks like alot of fun in America, and I would like to participate if I'm evern in America around that time but trying to institute it in Europe...would just feel artificial.
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Aaron
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:31 am Post subject: Re: Halloween in Europe? |
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Halloween used to be a fun holiday event during my childhood.
But today's rampant gynocratic paranoia has largely rendered Halloween a non-event for children.
XRaying candy for booby-traps... fears of child molestation etc... our American media machine runs on fear & the advertising revenues it generates.
Halloween is a pale reflection of the home-made costumes and bags O' candy I recall from my youth.
Another victim of our estrogen-based media paranoia machine.
| Quote: | | Let me tell you something. Nowadays, everybody's got to go to shrinks and counselors and go on Sally Jesse Raphael and talk about their problems. Whatever happened to Gary Cooper, the strong silent type? That was an American. He wasn't in touch with his feelings. He just did what he had to do. See what they didn't know was once they got Gary Cooper in touch with his feelings was that they wouldn't be able to shut him up and then it's dysfunction this and dysfunction that and dysfunction va fa culo! |
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lateStarter
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Location: 38 km west of Warsaw, Poland
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Halloween in Europe? |
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Welcome to the American marketing machine... It will take some time for Halloween to catch on here in Poland, but assuming we last a few more years, it will.
Valentine's day is the latest concoction to get traction. This is all so f*cked up!
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