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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think that the larger an organization is (country, corporation, church), the more resources need to be expended to keep the organization whole and on the same track.

The North American Union, if it is actually assembled, will collapse under its own weight without cheap energy to keep it stable.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If I didnt know any better I would say that you people are a bunch of PCT's Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

NEOPO wrote:
If I didnt know any better I would say that you people are a bunch of PCT's Cool

Are you referring to the Tunisian Communist Party?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

seldom_seen wrote:
Some of the Mexicans they brought in will kidnap their families and hold them for ransom, just as they do in Mexico and throughout Latin America.


That is already happening.

link to December 18th Houston Chronicle article

"Seven gunmen abducted Del Alba from his ranch north of town in November, making the 57-year-old businessman one of the latest victims of a relentless crime wave plaguing the South Texas border.

... the kidnapping trade has quietly flourished in the Rio Grande Valley, where Americans have about the same chance of getting abducted as they do in Mexico, officials say.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

TJ and s_s,

I am glad there are people like you around. Reality is gonna be a biatch!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thanks H. Today Buchanan posted an article asking why the Main Stream Media is not reporting the formation of the North American Union...

http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=610

"Trying to penetrate the layers of bureaucracy to get to the SPP office can put one’s patience to the ultimate test. Telephone inquiries get the runaround, and e-mail requests for information are ignored.

A Commerce spokeswoman did tell investigative author Jerome Corsi the working groups “do not wish to be distracted by calls from the public.”
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

O my that is serious stuff! Dont want to be bothered by the public? Flush republic and freedom down the toilet. Idiots are ruling us now and have been for a long time. The parasites have taken control of the entire body. All nutrients and minerals are being routed to the parasite. Host body shrinking. eventually parasite will be on the cold pavement and will have no host. Chaos ensues soon after.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

holmes wrote:
All nutrients and minerals are being routed to the parasite. Host body shrinking. eventually parasite will be on the cold pavement and will have no host. Chaos ensues soon after.

Excellent Holmesian™ shitstem analysis.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I guess they want us to quit dumping our dollars for Euros and instead dump dollars for Ameros. I've been wondering what the solution would be for the dollar crisis, maybe this is what they come up with. In the mean while I'll dump dollars for gold.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

TommyJefferson wrote:
Thanks H. Today Buchanan posted an article asking why the Main Stream Media is not reporting the formation of the North American Union...

http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=610

Thanks for the link, TJ.

It's a must-read, people. This is really ugly. The superhighway and the NAU have to be stopped.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The North American Union talk is a crock. The best we can expect is some continued liberalization of trade laws and unfettered immigration.

Peak oil and the inevitable energy shortfalls are going to be DEVISIVE not Unifying forces. It is far more likely to expect CA, the US and Mexico to devolve into feuding regional countries and fiefdoms.

All three countries have (or have had) seperatist movements politically or militarily over their histories. What makes anyone think this wont occur when times get tough? If you want an idea what north america would or could disintegrate into, check out Joel Garreau's Nine Nations of North America. It's a bit dated now but still lays out north america as it effectively functions today. Move a few of Joels borders around to reflect 25 years of migration patterns and you'll get a viable set of successor states to the tired old countries of North America.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: north american union ,NAU + Amero Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=north+american+union&search=Search
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Any more views on the NAU as this is getting serious.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: north american union ,NAU + Amero Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The two tiered union of the haves and have nots..whats new?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

pea-jay wrote:

Peak oil and the inevitable energy shortfalls are going to be DEVISIVE not Unifying forces. It is far more likely to expect CA, the US and Mexico to devolve into feuding regional countries and fiefdoms.


I agree. Big crises tend to divide countries, not unify them. Especially if the crisis affects transport, like in the case of peak oil.

On the other hand, big empires have been known to make a last-ditch effort to annex something else towards the end. But even when they succeed, it doesn't last long.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Re: North American Union Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Will the Amero be a product of the federal reserve system? What will make it different from the dollar? If it replaces the dollar, what will keep the amero from crashing?

Are we suppsed to believe it will be managed responsibly? yeah right, I won't be buying any ameros! And if my employer only offered ameros I will quickly exchange them for something of real value.

I would only consider buying a currency backed by a basket of precious metals and printed by an actual government, not the private federal reserve (or any other privately owned reserve).

Will our debts be converted to Ameros? How would that be possible? All the debt contracts stipulate US dollars and I would sue in court and win if my lenders demanded Ameros instead of the worthless dollars already agreed upon. If courts ceased the enforcement of contracts across the board than anarchy would surely follow and nobodies debts would amount to anything.

I just don't see how we could switch to Ameros.

Hey Europeans how did it work with your switch to euros?
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