We cannot drill our way out of this oil crisis. Since 2000, oil companies working in the U.S. have doubled the number of wells drilled per year.
Although increased drilling has added new oil to the nation's supply, it has not done so fast enough to offset the terminal decline of existing fields.
We are going to have to import more of our oil. Period.
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: Re: Jevon's Paradox Explained
MrBill wrote:
nth wrote:
MrBill,
I believe you are talking about something else.
No one is saying Cuba is energy independent, much less fossil fuel independent.
No, but my point is that far from being self-sufficient and an economic model for any other country, Cuba has been mainly propped-up and kept from dying by external sponsors like Russia, China and now VZL. However, this model does not travel. After PO in the USA there is no one who is going to bail-out Uncle Sam and keep the country running. Therefore, a Cuba is the wrong template to look at for a base case scenario.
After the collapse of the FSU Cuba had to make alot of painful adjustments to a life with far less oil.
I don't think anyone could argue that Cuba receives anywhere near the level of oil and sponsorship from China or Venezuala than what they obtained from the FSU.
The bottom line for optimists is that a nation's access to "cheap oil" was severly curtailed and they were able to effect some sort of transistion to a lower energy life style. _________________ "Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."
-Italian Proverb
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Jevon's Paradox Explained
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A Cuba future isn't the worst
It would be quite possible to get the Kmers rouge style of society
There seems to be a relationship between the price of available energy and the price of labor ,
possibly through the food production cost .
At face value society would rewind the historical movie ,
Two world wars , the end of the last one being fought with horse cavalry ,
then the plunge out of industrial societies
there is however some long lasting progress who would skew this scenario toward new forms , big hydro dams and the odd nuclear plant and of course one hundred year of rubbish heap and cities to be mined .
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