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eric_b
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 Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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| entropyfails wrote: | | smallpoxgirl wrote: | | Aaron wrote: | | no more fireflies |
No fireflies here either. It's the one real bummer about Montana.
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Yeah, but Montana never had fireflies. *grin*
I miss fireflies too in MN. You'll still see them in the summer in places with less human encroachment, but I know they have had to leave areas they used to inhabit.
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I live in Wisconsin, and last year we had a bumper crop of fireflies in
June and July. In parts of the city and surrounding parks. I actually saw
quite a few glowworms while hiking at night. And blue glowing fungus
growing on logs (the shelf type).
No I'm not kidding about the fungus.
Speaking of fungus, I think it's going to be taking over. Molds too.
With GW and warmer temps... imagine all the housing material out
there waiting to rot. Perhaps new super forms of fungii are being
selected to take advantage of all the human created junk. |
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Wednesday
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Joined: Dec 29, 2004
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Location: Houston
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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The Bush family is from Kennebunkport, Maine. Please don't blame Texas. 
Bush Family Tree |
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gg3
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Joined: May 24, 2004
Posts: 3429
Location: California, USA
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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It's always interesting to watch the different types of defense mechanisms humans use in response to uncomfortable subjects.
First there was tribalism, focused on whether "Texans" are good, bad, indifferent, or "better or worse than" someone else. Then, thankfully, a more agreeable digression about lightning bugs.
As for cameras, I would like to see the proponents argue for their placement inside of houses and apartments. Not the "negative arguement" of "what do you have to hide?" (negative because it attempts to negate the original question by flipping the premise from "why add cameras?" to the inverse of "why not add cameras?") but the positive arguement of why cameras are justified in such places. |
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Wednesday
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Location: Houston
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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I cant imagine who would agree to it.
Its a proposal, what does it take to pass a proposal? |
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TommyJefferson
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Location: Republic of Texas
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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We agreed that Texans are a better tribe.
I'm all for closing enrollment now that I'm in.
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smallpoxgirl
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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| entropyfails wrote: | | I’ve liked all the Texans I’ve met. I don’t blame Bush on them. That transplant cannot even get the accent right. *grin* |
Don't guess I've gotten to know that many personally. I was in Dallas a couple of years ago for a medical conference. It had a very weird plastic feel about it. Definitely not some place I would want to go back to. I felt the same way about St. Louis though. Maybe if I got out into the famed Texas pine country I would feel better. |
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Shannymara
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Location: Oklahoma
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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| smallpoxgirl wrote: | | I was in Dallas a couple of years ago for a medical conference. It had a very weird plastic feel about it. |
That's how I feel about Dallas, and I'm from Houston. Texas is a big place with a lot of different regions. And of course, in a city the size of Dallas there are some good people and places. But overall I agree with you about Dallas. I've lived all over the US, and a bit in Canada and Central America, and Dallas is one of my least favorite places. Atlanta might beat it, though. No offense intended to anyone who likes those places, it's just my personal preference and taste. I'm sort of attached to Houston since it's my home town, but I can sure see why most people with world views similar to mine would hate it.
I think it's strange how people from other places have these ideas about Texas.
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TheTurtle
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Location: Along the banks of the muddy Mississippi
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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| smallpoxgirl wrote: | | It had a very weird plastic feel about it. Definitely not some place I would want to go back to. I felt the same way about St. Louis though. |
Trust your instincts, SPG... 
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dossamosas
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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They have a saying, "Dallas ain't Texas, and Houston ain't even close."
Texas has Molly Ivins, and we're darn proud of that. |
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GeoJAP
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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This is an old thread, but I'll respond. I just found this forum. I'm a native Texan. Geology degree from UT, actually. My ancestors were working for lumber mills in east Texas in the Big Thicket, and were itinerant preachers in the mid to late 1800s. The ones who wanted work moved to Houston in the 1930s to work in the oil industry.
The people who are moving to Texas today are not like the Texans who made this place. Texans are fierce libertarians by nature. I speak three languages (not including english), have traveled all over the world and lived abroad for eleven years. I moved back to Texas and stayed for a reason. The self-determination allowed our citizens is like nothing I've ever seen anywhere else.
I hate to see people bring nanny-state methods like surveillance cameras and other ineffective Orwellian gadgets to Texas. Art Acevedo, the new Austin police chief from California, just proposed similar surveillance cameras in Austin. Studies have shown that in England, cameras have not reduced crime at all. |
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TommyJefferson
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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My Aunt's rural home was robbed two weeks ago. The burglars did not go in the house because it has an alarm system. They did tear the garage door off ($1,200 fix) and steal a bunch of my tools.
I'm looking into surveillance camera software that can use cheap USB cameras and upload video to a remote storage location.
I'm liking:
Luxriot - http://luxriot.com
Zoneminder - http://www.zoneminder.com
I have to decide if I want to fool with a Linux server, or Microsoft. Computer work quit being fun for me years ago.
I hope to catch the thieves on video when they return. I hope the video will provide me enough information to hunt them down and extract the pound of flesh which is mine, and I will have it.
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vision-master
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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| TommyJefferson wrote: | | smallpoxgirl wrote: | | Texans are into law and order. Law and order is the antithesis of freedom. Montanans are into freedom. |
Right. Montana has like 940,000 people.
Texas has 23 MILLION people.
And that doesn't include the million or so here illegally who are unaccountable to society.
It's testament to our culture that we get along as well as we do.
If "law and order" means you can still expect a righteous ass-kicking for thieving or molesting, I'm for it. Otherwise, be the freak you want to be. |
So why did Texas let all these illegal Mexicans - in the 1st place? |
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kpeavey
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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from my Places To Live List:
Texas
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GreyZone
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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| vision-master wrote: |
So why did Texas let all these illegal Mexicans - in the 1st place? |
Because we foolishly trusted the feds to do what they said they'd do. I'm of the opinion that we send the federal boys and everything they stand for packing right back to Washington, DC. The US doesn't seem to like Texas all that much so we can just go our own way. |
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pedalling_faster
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes |
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| duke3522 wrote: | | The proud state of Texas. Leading America down the path of totalitarianism since 1846. |
in a situation where crime is rising including metal (infrastructure) theft, deployment of video surveillance is not necessarily totalitarian.
it can be as simple as property owners in a neighborhood grouping their forces to install cameras because there have been too many break-ins.
i am partial to the Logitech QuickCam series, for example
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104045
i'm not advocating placing these things in the hands of Dick Cheney.
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