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Mexicans as well get it in the ass during times of economic downturn in Amerika. Don't know why I'm telling you the obvious but I suspect you have a bad case of Michael Jackson race/class confusion.

The ones in Glen Beck's mind where he claimed there was "rioting" at the AstroDome, them in the same breath said he hated the 9-11 families

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200509090003

.".....Yesterday, when I saw the ATM cards being handed out, the $2,000 ATM cards, and they were being handed out at the Astrodome. And they actually had to close the Astrodome and seal it off for a while because there was a near-riot trying to get to these ATM cards..........When you are rioting for these tickets, or these ATM cards, the second thing that came to mind was -- and this is horrible to say, and I wonder if I'm alone in this -- you know it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims' families? Took me about a year........."

Which areas of the country are "lawless"?

Thanks, I couldn't find them....

Yes I know AD Mexicans caught it in the LA riots too. I wanted to see the proof of events in NO. I full well expect that minorities will catch it on the chin should a break down occur. It should be remembered that different races constitute the minority in different parts of the country.

Just google it mate.

From my recollection of the plight of Latinos in the States (a group of desperate Mexicans tried to rob me and my pregnant wife in Miami in broad daylight and it was down and out Hispanics who harrassed us in Port Authority, New York), you guys need to be concentrating on your state of disadvantage and doing something about it rather than selling out in the hope you might get a few crumbs thrown your way. Its been tried here in New Zealand by the Maori and it does not work.

[quote="Cloud9"]Yes I know AD Mexicans caught it in the LA riots too. I wanted to see the proof of events in NO. I full well expect that minorities will catch it on the chin should a break down occur. It should be remembered that different races constitute the minority in different parts of the country.[/quot

Ludi, "lawless" is not a matter of black or white, there are degrees. I would say that there are segments of our inner cities that are far more "lawless" than our xburbs or suburbs. ( Although, my experience growing up in a very small community makes me think that it can happen there as well.)

In Camden, N.J. the political system has broken down and the Major is a largely ceremonial post, the city is run by a State appointed overseer. The murder rate continually runs among the highest in the nation. The murder rates in Philadelphia, across the river in PA, are also very high, as they are in other major cities.

The Government has never been able to get a handle on the drug problem. I think it is clear that the 'gangs' are a type of local government (albeit a nasty one) that rules certain areas, think Cabrini Greens. My theory is that if economic/medical/food conditions deteriorate these 'lawless' areas will expand. Government does not have the resources to stop it.

Unfortunantly government constraints intended intended to control criminals prevent decent people from taking back their streets. Arson laws and the burning of crack houses come to mind.

Absent the iron fist of the state, citizens might take back their own areas.

Make membership in a criminal organization punishible by death. (Classify membership in a criminal organization as participation in an ongoing conspiracy to commit crimes ala RICO)

Step 1: Hold a trial to determine if a criminal gang meets the criteria.

Step 2: Hold trials to determine membership.

Step 3: Execute all the members.


Warehousing criminals doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to give a person a death penalty for one murder that they quite possibly might have not done if evidence was fabricated or faulty.

On the otherhand, executing career criminals who make criminal activity a way of life seems like a pretty good way to avoid executing "innocent" people. Kill all the multiple felons, empty the prisons that way, the streets get cleaner.

Flint Michigan has something like 40% unemployment. Are folks rioting there?

What about Detroit? Are folks rioting?

I would say not. Let's face it, there really hasn't been a decent riot in the US since the LA Riot in 1992. And, that pales in comparrision to the rest of the world's riots.

List of Riots

The largest, most deadly riot in US History (1863)

Interestingly, the first US riot listed - The Boston Bread Riot might be instructive.



It doesn't say anyone lost their life though (as least due to the riot). But something did come of it

Well, I'm disappointed. Where's all the violent rioting and Zombie Hordes we were promised?

That reminds me. This Halloween I went as usual to a street in my neighborhood where they go all out and people come from all over the county to trick or treat. the adults get in costume and sit on the porches eating, drinking and handing out candy. Anyway, I dressed up as a thief (a high-end museum jewel thief) except I wore a Balaclava and all the kids thought I was a Ninja. But anyway, I explained to this little girl (6-8 yo) that I was a thief, not a Ninja and she says "Well that is a very good career choice for the future!". What is up with kids these day !?

In the future Ludi, in the future.

The white ones will be too fat to do much. The blacks will be burning down their neighbourhoods and both the blacks and Hispanics will be at each others throats. That just about sums up the working masses in America (and the world generally. Apply the appropriate labels for your particular country.)