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Grimnir
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Post subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh quotes Boon Pickens Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:04 pm |
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Fox News: Experts Say Global Oil Production May Peak Soon link They quote both Deffeyes and Hirsh, and are pretty scornful about Bush's "plan".
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ClassicSpiderman
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Post subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh quotes Boon Pickens Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:44 pm |
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Grimnir wrote: Former Presidential candidate, PNAC member, and head of the Fundamentalist "Campaign for Working Families" Gary Bauer sort of gets it, but he just can't resist blaming liberals and environmentalism: Gary Bauer wrote: The Republican Party is obviously worried about a backlash at the polls in November, and today President Bush took action in a number of areas that may help stabilize prices and, perhaps, relieve some of the pressure. Unfortunately, there is no âquick fixâ or easy solution to Americaâs energy needs. But, instead of buying into socialist rhetoric, the administration and conservative members of Congress would be better off explaining the role failed liberal policies have played in higher gas prices.
If you take away Gary Bauer's shilling for the Rs and his expected potshots at 'liberals', what he writes is quite sensible.
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ClassicSpiderman
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Post subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh quotes Boon Pickens Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:54 pm |
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Conservatives in the mainstream media will slowly embrace the peak oil more now to deflect hatred of the oil companies and calls for government regulation on prices. Since conservatives must always defend capitalism over socialism they must find the most plausible explanation for rising gas prices.
I wonder how Jerome Corsi is going to react when most of his conservative brethren become peak oil doomers?
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MattSavinar
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Post subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh quotes Boon Pickens Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:52 pm |
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ClassicSpiderman wrote: Conservatives in the mainstream media will slowly embrace the peak oil more now to deflect hatred of the oil companies and calls for government regulation on prices. Since conservatives must always defend capitalism over socialism they must find the most plausible explanation for rising gas prices. I wonder how Jerome Corsi is going to react when most of his conservative brethren become peak oil doomers?
Corsi's "solutions" are to remove environmental restrictions, drill everywhere, more tax cuts, tar-and-feather the evil liberals, etc. So in the end he's more or less in line with his neo-conservative kool aid drinking brethren.
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MyOtherID
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Post subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh quotes Boon Pickens Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:07 pm |
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Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:00 am Posts: 362 Location: Vegas, America's cloaca
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[flash width=550 height=400]http://www.bushflash.com/swf/nazi.swf[/flash]
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Daculling
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Post subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh quotes Boon Pickens Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:51 pm |
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Wow MyOtherID,
Your stupid post really makes a point. Now go home and console your latest Kennedy drug addict/criminal.
_________________ -Dac
Winners never quit and quiters never win, but those that never win and never quit are idiots.
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MyOtherID
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Post subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh quotes Boon Pickens Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:42 pm |
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Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:00 am Posts: 362 Location: Vegas, America's cloaca
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The Kennedys are Irish Catholic scum who should be run out of the Democratic Party.
And you're right, Kennedy is a drug addict. At least nobody could call Rush that, could they?
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eric_b
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Post subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh quotes Boon Pickens Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:41 pm |
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Please don't post really lame stuff with embedded audio.
I was listening to tunes and when this came up I nearly went deaf.
Here I am listening to Beethoven's piano sonata 21 with the volume
turned up when suddenly
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, RUSH DIMBULB!!! (RAAAUGHHH!!!!!)
Gawd
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WebHubbleTelescope
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Post subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh quotes Boon Pickens Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:19 pm |
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clueless wrote: Ed Schultz has been talking energy all week. He had Professor David Pimental on two days ago showing how in spite of the (I forgot how many) billions of gallons of ethanol we produced last year gasolin consumption still increased, and is a net energy loser. He also had a Michigan State professor on stating ethanol was "absolutley" the right way to go. Even if you gain a small return from turning petroleum into ethanol, doesn't the cost of aquifer depletion and soil erosion throw the scale the other way ??? At least Schultz is examining all the issues. http://www.bigeddieradio.com/
I could care less what Limbaugh says (as he has Jim-Jones-brainwashed his audience for the last 15+ years and they won't recover ever), but Schultz has been pushing the ethanol/biodiesel thing really big the past year, and so to bring Pimental on is a good deal. Consider also that Schultz's home-base is on the Red River and home to a huge crop of sugar beet farmers.
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WebHubbleTelescope
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Post subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh quotes Boon Pickens Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:23 pm |
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eric_b wrote: Please don't post really lame stuff with embedded audio.
I was listening to tunes and when this came up I nearly went deaf.
Here I am listening to Beethoven's piano sonata 21 with the volume turned up when suddenly
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, RUSH DIMBULB!!! (RAAAUGHHH!!!!!)
Gawd
I was going to say the same thing but then realized you can disable the auto-play from your browser settings. In other words, its our own fault if we had to listen to this.
UPDATE: Also just click on the Ignore button above the audio-containing post, and at least you won't have to go through it again if the same poster tries to do it again.
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DantesPeak
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Post subject: Pickens on Bloomberg Radio (June 16) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:42 am |
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T. Boone Pickens appeared on Bloomberg Radio this morning. To those that follow him closely, he didnât say much new.
He repeated his contention that we will not exceed daily production of 85 million barrels a day, because depletion will more than offset new production.
Demand increases, he said, âwill be killed by priceâ.
Perhaps most noteworthy is his prediction that oil will pass $80 barrel sometime before New Yearâs 2007.
He also says there is plenty of natural gas around right now, and the price could stay weak âfor some timeâ through the summer.
Major oil company stocks discount a price of $40 oil in the ground but will eventually reflect market realities.
Currently thinks Canadian oil sand stocks are the best stock market investment.
I am just the messenger here; I do not agree oil sand stocks are the best energy investment right now. However I do agree on a net liquid energy basis we are at or near peak. Even while we may exceed the 85 mpd because, for example, of counting âother oilsâ like ethanol in IEA figures, the net amount of energy available for consumption wonât increase â because of the oil used to produce and bring to market alternative âother oilsâ like ethanol. IEA figures are a gross amount, which also counts other oils â some of which are not usual energy sources - and in no way reflects the use of one energy source to get another, except for the ârefineryâ gain which produces more product output than input in the refining of crude oil.
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Cynus
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Post subject: Re: Pickens on Bloomberg Radio (June 16) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:00 am |
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Did he mention this?
Link
Billionaire's son charged with burglary
CORNWALL, Conn. --An accused burglar whom police say they found groggy and hiding under a table in a fly fishing shop last weekend has been identified as the son of billionaire oil tycoon T. Boone Pickens.
_________________ One of these now am I too, a fugitive from the gods and a wanderer, at the mercy of raging Strife.
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http://apoxonbothyourhouses.blogspot.com
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pstarr
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Post subject: Re: Pickens on Bloomberg Radio (June 16) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:47 am |
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"counting âother oilsâ like ethanol in IEA figures"
IEA measures the liquid fuel when it comes out of the ground as petroleum and a second time when converted to ethanol?
idiots are running energy ponzi scheme. sounds like the way the FED measures American wealth. just another inducement to use up crap. pathetic.
no convenience store for little t-boone. Dad is no spring chicken. How old is junior? I guess the kid is the result of one of dad's 'fishing trips' 
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DantesPeak
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Post subject: Re: Pickens on Bloomberg Radio (June 16) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:21 pm |
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fafhrd wrote: Nevermind.
Pickens did appear later in the day on CNBC.
The 'debate' was framed by the question 'Are We Running Out of Oil?'.
Taking a statement by former President Carter out of context, the 'other side of the debate' pointed out the some have said we are running out of oil before. Carter actually said we would run out of oil if consumption kept increasing fast every year - which is techncially correct - since capacity never grew that fast.
Anyway Pickens said we have 20 years left - although what happens after twenty years was not clear. He said the question is not that we are running out of oil but that we are are about halfway through the recoverable oil - and the oil age will be over in 40(?) years.
Questioned about oil sand, Pickens stated it takes an investment of $70 billion to produce 1 million bpd. It was not clear if that includes operational costs; I assume it doesn't.
No mention was made by the optimists of potential natural gas or even nuclear power shortages to extract the oil sands. Just bland statements that alternatove energy will be economically profitable.
Pickens also noted that Saudi oi production is dropping (see my post on the Saudi thread:http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic10918-360.html)
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fafhrd
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Post subject: Re: Pickens on Bloomberg Radio (June 16) Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:29 pm |
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Good to hear. I thought I had hallucinated the blurb after checking their site and not finding Picken's name among the guests.
The spot itself sounds like just the sort of skewed pablum one would expect on Kudlow, whose bountiful optimism is without equal. Thanks for the digest version.
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