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FireJack
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:26 pm |
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I doubt wilma, no matter how destructive it is to oil production, will have much of an effect. Look what happened with rita.
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engulfthemanatee
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:14 pm |
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FireJack wrote: I doubt wilma, no matter how destructive it is to oil production, will have much of an effect. Look what happened with rita.
And you know that soon people will start declaring, "$100 oil by the end of the week!" "$8.00 gas by Sunday!" "Martial law by next week!" "Collapse of society by Halloween!" "Yellowstone erupts by Christmas!"
I think people overestimate the fragility of our society, maybe?
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nth
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:21 pm |
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FireJack wrote: I doubt wilma, no matter how destructive it is to oil production, will have much of an effect. Look what happened with rita.
If Rita was as powerful as Katrina and actually hit Houston as its center, then you will see major catastrophy!
Regarding price and things related to price, people underestimated releasing reserves will do to price. Bush, Sr. and Clinton were able to induce price stability with it and we see it happen again.
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ohanian
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:53 pm |
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nth wrote: Regarding price and things related to price, people underestimated releasing reserves will do to price. Bush, Sr. and Clinton were able to induce price stability with it and we see it happen again.
US strategic oil reserve is like a credit card.
When you are short of cash, you use your credit card.
When US is short of oil, it uses its strategic oil reserve.
Now what was it my mother used to tell me about using my credit card to substitute for cash? Now I remembered! THE PAYBACK IS A BITCH.
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strider3700
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:22 pm |
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nth wrote: FireJack wrote: I doubt wilma, no matter how destructive it is to oil production, will have much of an effect. Look what happened with rita. If Rita was as powerful as Katrina and actually hit Houston as its center, then you will see major catastrophy! Regarding price and things related to price, people underestimated releasing reserves will do to price. Bush, Sr. and Clinton were able to induce price stability with it and we see it happen again.
What percentage of gulf oil production is still offline? 30%? Katrina beat up on everything pretty good, Rita kicked it really good when it was down. The fact that this hasn't trickled through to the markets is besides the point. It will catch up just like ivan did.
_________________ shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
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nth
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:18 am |
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Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:00 am Posts: 1976
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ohanian,
historically, it has been very easy to pay it back. refineries will buy oil during the offseason and give it back to US. US does not sell its oil on the market. It just lends to refineries who promised to pay it back under a certain time frame. It allows refineries to play short term on the market.
strider3700 wrote: What percentage of gulf oil production is still offline? 30%? Katrina beat up on everything pretty good, Rita kicked it really good when it was down. The fact that this hasn't trickled through to the markets is besides the point. It will catch up just like ivan did.
Ivan? What damage did Ivan do that affects the US economy so badly in regards to oil?
I am only aware of the fact that oil platforms took very very long time to fix and get back to production, but was not aware it had major repercussions.
I think with $3+ gas, we are seeing major conservation.
Gasoline consumption has been down and down. Over 1% down is a major move in the oil industry. IEA has said they think this is temporary, but if gas prices keep this high, I don't think it is temporary. After all, people are actually buying small cars with 30+ mpg. That is almost doubling efficiency.
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khebab
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:18 am |
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Crude oil prices are coming back below $60 for the first time in months!
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BabyPeanut
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:37 am |
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Quote: [url=http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aa.4xnDAU4Go&refer=us] ``We're still in shoulder season,'' Sieminski said. ``Gasoline season is over and heating demand has yet to pick up.'' (link)[/url]
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GreyZone
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:51 pm |
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strider3700 wrote: What percentage of gulf oil production is still offline? 30%? Katrina beat up on everything pretty good, Rita kicked it really good when it was down. The fact that this hasn't trickled through to the markets is besides the point. It will catch up just like ivan did. As of Friday, October 21st, 2005, MMS reports: Quote: Today’s shut-in oil production is 986,805 BOPD. This shut-in oil production is equivalent to 65.787% of the daily oil production in the GOM, which is currently approximately 1.5 million BOPD.
Today’s shut-in gas production is 5.337 BCFPD. This shut-in gas production is equivalent to 53.37% of the daily gas production in the GOM, which is currently approximately 10 BCFPD.
Ref: http://www.mms.gov/ooc/press/2005/press1021.htm
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Sys1
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:04 am |
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It didn't last for long. Oil back above 60$ :
reuters
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Revi
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:26 am |
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Oil may be on the rebound again. It's at almost $62. Gas is up 5 cents. What's going on? Is there some news we don't know driving it up? the cold winter coming? Some report or something?
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khebab
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:32 am |
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Revi wrote: Oil may be on the rebound again. It's at almost $62. Gas is up 5 cents. What's going on? Is there some news we don't know driving it up? the cold winter coming? Some report or something? cnn wrote: The major (BP) said its giant Thunder Horse oilfield in the Gulf of Mexico, initially expected to start this year, would not start up until the second half of 2006 due to hurricane damage, a much bigger delay than analysts had anticipated.
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frankthetank
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:06 am |
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Its on a tear!
62.30 last i checked...something up or what???
Report comes out tomorrow...bad news?
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Eli
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:07 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 4005 Location: In a van down by the river
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62.40
a gain of 2.08 that is a pretty big jump in one day.
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khebab
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Post subject: Re: Another record Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:37 pm |
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frankthetank wrote: Its on a tear!
62.30 last i checked...something up or what???
Report comes out tomorrow...bad news? Quote: Crude oil futures rallied above $62 a barrel Tuesday on worries that a cold winter could raise U.S. demand for heating oil, putting a strain on storm-ravaged oil facilities in the Gulf of Mexico.
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