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More than 1000 posts on the Yahoo site and from what I read, not a whole lot of understanding/believing in PO. Lots of "They said that back in '70". I think it will take a little more time. . .

What I find interesting is that it's breaking into Mainstream just before the summer driving season, got my eyes wide open to say the least! :twisted:


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More than 1000 posts on the Yahoo site and from what I read, not a whole lot of understanding/believing in PO. Lots of "They said that back in '70". I think it will take a little more time. . .


I think those of us that are aware of Peak Oil should be somewhat thankful that so many aren't able to see what is right in front of their faces.

I see it as a huge hurricane spinning off of the coast, but only enough supplies and time for a certain percentage to properly prepare. If everyone tries to prepare with the same limited amount of supplies and labor everyone is screwed. But if those that see the clouds get going they can protect themselves quite nicely while the others are out getting a tan.

Those that see what is coming should pay down debts, invest in Coal, nuclear and other energy companies during dips.

Learn some new trades and farming practices if they have the opportunity and other things that can be done in advance.

Running around trying to convince everybody of Peak Oil will do little to stop the eventual day when demand permantly outstrips available supply even with conservation. At that point, or very soon after a major shift in the haves and have nots will occur.

Areas with poor soil and a lack of natural resources will rapidly lose value, while areas with good soil and natural resources will become more valuable or not lose as much value during the shifting of priorities.

Countries and regions of countries with adequate water, coal, wood and cropland will become the wealthier areas. As opposed to many of the areas that have become inhabitable only by diverting water and using huge amounts of oil to overcome the inhospitable heat and poor soil of some other locations.

I would like to be firmly entrenched in a good area before everybody else realizes they need to get off of the beach and prepare for the storm of the century.


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This Ap story was picked up by some print media also. I read it on Sunday.


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i know what you mean Kenohio, I'm involved in this process myself but form my city apartment there is very little I can do WRT self-sufficiency.
I have no debt whatsover which I see as a big plus.

I'm still trying to figure out whats the best way to go, I'm currently employed in the city and own no vehicle so a big move out of town is not in the cards just yet. Feel as though I'm in somewhat of a holding pattern. :?


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Hubbert2005, I think being in an apartment in the city with no debt is better than being up to your eyeballs in debt out in the suburbs. Most houses in the suburbs are way too big to heat economically and will be worthless if the cities around them implode. Plus in many parts of the country a serious housing bubble has many people sitting on a house of cards ready to crash in on them.

I don't think everyone should move to farms, but I do think that those of us with access to family farmland should try to hang on to it and improve it when and where possible.

Might be a great time to unload some of the crap we all seem to accumulate over the years that has little use. That way if your area is harder hit than some other area, you aren't tring to sell stuff into a buyers market.

Cash gives people flexibility, and in a time of transition being flexible is extremely important.


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