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vision-master
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:02 am |
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Quote: The new Greater Depression will be very different from the old one, because people have changed for the worse, there are far more of them, and the resource base has been depleted. So we can expect mass vandalism and chaos, indeed.
The greatest generation went from rags to riches. Now, we are going to see peeps that expect it all, going to rags. UGLY......
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Dukkha
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:15 am |
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Olaf wrote: So, if you just burn down a house for kicks, you're an arsonist, you know with rights and stuff. You burn it down for a reason, then you're a terrorist. The likes of which now have little rights in this country if the government so classifies you, and they don't even have to have much in the way of evidence or anything.
Like Jeff Luers. 22 years and 8 months for torching 3 SUVs (cost of damage: $40,000). Cars later sold. No harm to any humans. Mental. On appeal, the original sentence was reduced to 10 years, which still seems absolutely insane.
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gnm
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:37 am |
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Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:00 am Posts: 3137 Location: plundering eco-villages
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Lighthouse wrote: Look at the bright side. $6 a gallon and the arson mob can not afford to buy enough fuel to lit that mansion in that fancy suburb on the other site of town ... 
Peak Molotov's?
-G
_________________ I Have and will continue to vote against ANY politician who supports the various bailouts. Curse you for selling out our future for status quo now!
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DomusAlbion
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:53 am |
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killJOY wrote: Check this one out: "Eco terrorists" burn McMansions.Excuse me, but if you're an "eco-terrorist" group and you want to get away with arson, do you spraypaint your name all over the place??? Qui bono?ELF certainly doesn't "bono."
I'm with you killJoy. Those houses were part of the Puget Sound's silly "Street of Dreams" festival and have been sitting unsold since last spring. This might have been the act of desperate builder more than a group of eco-terrorists. The mob did this back east decades ago. Buy up apartment buildings in the Bronx and then torch them for the insurance.
I use to live in one of these monstrosities in Redmond in a former lifetime; 4000 sq. ft., not counting the garage. The place had two, yes two, gas furnaces, 5 bedrooms and 5 bathrooms. My wife at the time, and I only had two kids! What a waste of material, resources and living space! It was obscene. I cringe when I look back at that period of my life. May God and my fellow man have mercy on me.
_________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
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eastbay
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:11 am |
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DomusAlbion wrote: I'm with you killJoy. Those houses were part of the Puget Sound's silly "Street of Dreams" festival and have been sitting unsold since last spring. This might have been the act of desperate builder more than a group of eco-terrorists. The mob did this back east decades ago. Buy up apartment buildings in the Bronx and then torch them for the insurance.
I didn't know they had been sitting vacant for a year. Thanks for the news. I was mistaken. Looks like the housing problem has finally hit Puget Sound.
_________________ Got Dharma?
Everything is Impermanent. Shakyamuni Buddha
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Iaato
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:25 am |
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Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:00 am Posts: 1023 Location: As close as I can get to the beginning of the pipe.
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vision-master wrote: Quote: The new Greater Depression will be very different from the old one, because people have changed for the worse, there are far more of them, and the resource base has been depleted. So we can expect mass vandalism and chaos, indeed. The greatest generation went from rags to riches. Now, we are going to see peeps that expect it all, going to rags. UGLY...... Consumers Walking Away from Grocery BillsQuote: '“I don’t think it’s right to walk out of the store with food like that,” admonished Lester Stuphmifase, tossing a spent banana peel under the bagel bins and grabbing a fresh custard donut from the bakery section. “Anyways, why bother, I just eat here, it’s much more convenient. Have you tried the pumpkin pie? It’s excellent.”
Another shopper complained, “It’s a pretty good deal [sneaking out the door with free food] but the store should do more to help consumers. They should deliver our free groceries right to our homes.”'
Gawd. We are in trouble, Vision-Master. And I agree that those Washington McMansions were fire insurance fraud. ELF's timing would never be so bad--they've got bigger fish to fry. Four houses by the same builder is just way too convenient.
_________________ “Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value ---- zero.” --Voltaire
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killJOY
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:12 am |
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D.A. wrote: My wife at the time, and I only had two kids! What a waste of material, resources and living space! It was obscene. I cringe when I look back at that period of my life. May God and my fellow man have mercy on me. It would be interesting to hear your story, how and why you changed, etc. If there's a thread, direct me there! eastbay wrote: Looks like the housing problem has finally hit Puget Sound.
Yeah, and I be those "eco-terrorists" start getting active.
Real active.
_________________ "By the time individuals discover that remaining resources will not be adequate for the next generation, the next generation has already been born. " David Price
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DomusAlbion
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:49 pm |
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killJOY wrote: It would be interesting to hear your story, how and why you changed, etc.
Well, it's a very personal story and I keep it private to some family and close friends only. It stems from an event that happened to me when I was on a business trip to Europe in 1991. Suffice it to say that 4 years later I left Microsoft, ended up divorced, a born again Catholic and raising my two kids on my own. I dumped that big house and fled the Puget Sound for Eastern Washington. Since then my life has become simpler with each passing year and I'm grateful for it all.
_________________ "Modern Agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food."
-- Albert Bartlett
"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
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Ferretlover
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:10 pm |
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Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions:
It certainly makes more sense to go after a large, sure-to-be-full-of-goodies house than a small-needs-paint-and-a-yard house...
Sounds like arson to me-lucky, the builder had a leftover "ELF" sign to leave in one of the yards...
_________________ "RRrrruuuunnnn!!!" ~Apocalypto
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Lumpy
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:02 pm |
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DomusAlbion wrote: killJOY wrote: It would be interesting to hear your story, how and why you changed, etc. Well, it's a very personal story and I keep it private to some family and close friends only. It stems from an event that happened to me when I was on a business trip to Europe in 1991. Suffice it to say that 4 years later I left Microsoft, ended up divorced, a born again Catholic and raising my two kids on my own. I dumped that big house and fled the Puget Sound for Eastern Washington. Since then my life has become simpler with each passing year and I'm grateful for it all.
Congratulations to a man who has clearly been moving in the right direction....albeit over a bumpy road, like so many of us. (All of us, maybe.)
So is that the ex-wife in the photo on your avatar? She doesn't look like the live in a McMansion type ... so I kind of doubt that's the ex!
Anyway, seriously, good on you for how far you apparently have come.
As the old Quaker song says, "Tis is gift to be simple, Tis a gift to be free."
Lumpy
_________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson
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Gandalf_the_White
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:46 pm |
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LoneSnark wrote: Odd, the last statistics I saw said domestic terrorism peaked in the 1970s. Then all the radical hippies got jobs.
They say that helps. Give jobs to angry young men. But then when you offer them minimum wage while you reap 400% a year behind the walls of the castle it only lasts so long. Things are broken and only the glut of light sweet crude kept us intoxicated enough to drunkenly go along for the ride. I heard a prophecy years ago from a man who had been persecuted for his faith in communist Romania. He told me the Lord showed him the end of America, that enemies from outside and within would conspire against her and that rebellion would finish the job. This was 20 years ago and at the time the little church where we were sitting was stone cold silent. On the one hand everyone thought he must be just a crazy old man, but then it is hard to discount the testimony of someone who had their fingernails ripped out for failing to renounce Christ and give up his Christian brothers and came through it with an even deeper trust in God.
The answer to all your questions is blowin' in the wind, like a purple heart wrapped in packing tape, and a silver coin with no nationality together with a 5 million mark postage stamp.
_________________ I return to you now at the turning of the tide.
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MrBill
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:20 am |
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Quote: “It’s the store’s fault,” blamed shopper Irene Hugivsadam as she whisked her cart full of unpaid-for groceries out to the parking lot. “I wasn’t told how much the prices would be increased.”
For all you that applaud theft and arson I hope you get the future you richly deserve!
_________________ The organized state is a wonderful invention whereby everyone can live at someone else's expense.
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Cloud9
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:36 am |
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Reminds me of the little darlin dancing on the roof in Independence Day. "Oooo such a pritty light!"
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I_Like_Plants
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Post subject: Re: attacks on rich peoples mansions Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:33 pm |
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One thing I know is, when I was poor (min. wage or a little above it) I lived in a rooming house, rode an old bike, etc., it was pretty obvious I was not worth robbing, and I never had a worry about it. But my friends with a lot of "stuff" all had their burglary stories, alarm systems, etc.
In fact it seems strange to me, being worried about being robbed, since most of my life I was not worth robbing.
The Quakers are right, tis a gift to be simple, tis a gift to be free.
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