Hmmz i think this is your argument (the rest about hurricanes etc. has nothing to do with it and is irrelevenant in this case).

First of all as repent said that experiment is not applicable to the world as we can see, live and breath it. It is at a very different level of existence and thus not directly applicable to the case of entropy on the human level of existence.

Secondly technological progress needs time and money. The whole idea about peak oil is that. A. there will be no more market as we know it at the moment. It cannot be based upon profit anymore in the way as we know it now. Secondly there will be little time to convert on a superior scale.

If you say the market will handle it and because the market will regulate technology will pop up then you may explain to me how the market will hold up in a non growth situation.

I recommend that everyone just ignore posts of "guests".

I strongly suspect that we are seeing a deliberate attempts to create "fraud" threads which are little more than a guest "multi-naming" and agreeing with themselves.

I'd be interested how many MEMBERS here would support eliminating guest posting completely...

As a card carrying scientist I make the following proposal. If society is counting on beating entropy! it's going to take lots of science to achieve anything beyond experiments on the quantum level.

All scientists in the US should have their incomes quadrupled and be given free housing, fast cars (gasoline paid for of course) etc. It will take a lot of work to beat entropy and we will not do it for free.

I guess my serious point is- if you expect scientists to save us all, the USA had better start training and teaching a lot more scientists and pay them a lot more. Complexity is a direct function of energy input. If you want complex solutions to fundamental problems (entropy) it will take loads of energy (money in early 21 century terms).

Aaron - speaking as a regular guest - I oppose the motion. I've tried twice to join and failed twice. As long as Guests use a name so what? Only problem arises when two guests post anonymously? At least we avoid getting blasted by e-mails from Matt Savinaar.

You must have cookies enabled to become a member here...

With guest posting people can post replies to their own posts.

Aaron -
1. That probably explains it!
2. I see, you mean anonymous 'Guests' not anonymous guests!

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

I detest Microsoft's Internet Explorer, it's massive size, and continuous security problems.

Download the little (4.5Mb) Firefox browser - it's fast, small, has customizable cookie controls (including "accept for session" which automatically deletes the those cookies when you close the browser), controls popups, and is very customizible by those who are so inclined. Firefox has been very stable through versions 0.8, 0.9, and now the pre-release of version 1.0.

Dave van Harn

I'm interested. It would cut back on some of the trolls, anonymous personal attacks and laymo junk science posts.

Maybe leave the open discussion area as a 'free for all'?

How about a poll...

regards,
Mark

oh yea... I'm currently in the open discussion area

uhm, how about a guest open discussion area (gotta support free speech)

regards,
Mark

Am I the only one who recognizes an attempt at satire when I see it?

VOR is a proven troll. Don't feed the trolls!

I vote for no guest posts. They are troll buddies too much of the time.

Hi again.

I'm interested - I don't approve or disapprove of it, but how come we are getting a load of guests coming here? Where did they learn of this site?

Mark

damn, a fellow libertarian!

doesn't matter how come, or where from, they are getting exposure to what may come. they can see many sides to the argument, not the simple sound bites of the mass media. And they can argue, and those who have thought through some of these questions can offer our views, and requestion our views. Our new guests make the rest of us "honest"

I just showed up as a Guest on another thread because I assumed I was automatically signed in (as I usually am). Apparently, I was wrong.

L.