I do not advocate the usurping of any laws by production companies or their employees. By all means, prosecute GGW.

Apparently, my threshold for 'porn' tolerance is somewhat different than that which is set by the current Neocon/Southern Baptist agenda, as is demonstrated by this recent turn of events. But, what's the big deal, right? Chipping a little off of the First Amendment doesn't really matter anyways...




A person consented to being raped & murdered? Pure insanity.
That person should've been committed immediately. Someone cannot consent themselves to being 'murdered'. They prosecute Kevorkian all the time for just this thing. And if someone 'consents' to sex, then it's not rape, is it? But somehow I highly doubt that the participants were competent enough to give consent for anything of this nature.

And their opinions mean more than mine? Suddenly, government knows what's best for us?

F**k that.

This is the kind of thing that gets by the legalities all the time now, this is why I say Go Gonzales, Bush made a GOOD choice in appointing him. Only thing I have a difference with is taking agents off of other tasks when they should be hiring more agents.

I'm sure anyone in law enforcement who's dealt with this stuff can concur, they'll find some utter slimeball who's hurt kids, etc and their house will be full of "legal" porn but it will be this kind of psychologically unhealthy stuff.

Goodmanweisensteinman's article makes porn makers out to be poor, persecuted heroes, I'm sure that was always the story in his family.

Feel free to elaborate on what constitutes 'psychologically unhealthy'. We're all waiting to hear.
At some point we're going to hear that all porn is unhealthy, and it may well be, just like any other vice (drinking, smoking, eating, etc.) seems to be without moderation. Those of you crying out for the nanny state to regulate the porn industry out of existence would do well to read up on fascism before they outlaw encyclopedias too.

And I am NOT defending pervs who prey on kids, either. Haul their asses in for child endangerment if they're found around the production of these kinds of films.

I will not be surprised when this squad becomes the biggest trafficker in the vilest porn that history has ever seen. The wild boys of the elite trade in the nastiest stuff you could ever imagine anyway, bet your bottom dollar that they will corrupt this group even if it starts out benign, to get them what they want under cover of quasi-officialdom.

Hell, what do you think the overprivileged do for kicks when there are no challenges for them, and they have never known privation of any kind? Play euchre for matches? Drink Coors Lite and eat potato chips?

Biker good Frontline link. That frontline show is good. I do not want that industry near me at all. My friend in Portland owned a porn shop. I met a hoard of the stars and not to shiny sex workers. Weird and wild to say the least. Its a bad scene. some of the Women and men who do it as a business doing straight stuff are alright. Its when your older or not a "hottie" and your only shot is in the gutter stuff. The things they do are all true. If your a young stud "in the business" around these women watch out. they will proposition u anywhere anytime.
But I think drugs have made it worse.

Emerson did you take the time to watch that documentary I linked to? Highly recommended. This issue is not nearly as simple as you pretentiously and self-righteously (and disingenuously IMO) portray.

Most (not all) of what we call porn is extremely degrading and dehumanizing to women.

I did not watch it, I must admit. It's 53 minutes long and I'm at work. It's bad enough that I'm posting on billable time.

And I do agree that most porn is degrading to women, but the degradation and subjugation of women didn't start with the porn age, did it? The burka is as dehumanizing as a whip and handcuffs, IMO.

I'll try to watch tonight. I've seen Pink Flamingos, which would be illegal according to these new standards, so I'm ready for anything.

OMG...

Just keep in the way it is.

Because obviously we have solved every other problem more important than this.

I just watched parts 5 & 6; they seemed to be the focus of the documentary. While I agree that the violent scene is a bit much for my tastes, I can't concede that there is some arbitrary 'community' standard to which we should adhere. The 'community' standard seems set up to fail porn of any kind from 'passing the test', especially when you consider who might be 'giving the test'. I can't expect that 60 and 70 year olds would have the same standards as a 20-30 year old, so how can the test be relevant? Using this logic, you could outlaw rap music, as it offends most people in the community, but appeals greatly to its core audience.
We've got to have something more tangible to use as a 'community standard', if we are to have one at all. Perhaps acts showing depictions of what would be considered felonious crimes, consentual or not, could be the baseline. This would include depictions of rape, murder, molestation and physical abuse. Laws not subject to the whims of the court of public opinion, whatever that might be, are a good start.

Thanks for the links, though. It's a subject that deserves more review by the feds and all of us.

Yes it's a good series but they get to the real meat of the problem in the 2nd to last and last segments. Yikes!! How are rape scenes and snuff films (even if simulated, how can you tell?) and forced, nonconsensual abuse and beating of actresses "good clean innocent fun"?

To the people running that biz, sure it's fun because it's not their Tribe. Look at the noses! Look at the names! It's about time standard are brought in, the standards the mainstream porn industry itself have brought in, even.

Go, Gonzales!

Classic liberalism/leftistm-standing up for other people perceived as weak as a reflection of your own feelings of inadequacy. Also, how do you know that the attitude that women can't decide what's best for them isn't more degrading than what you are denouncing? I also detect a hint antiquated notion that women shouldn't enjoy sex.

I agree, it doesn't get my rocks off. If there's lawbreaking involved (rape, abuse), it must be punished. But, like I said, baseline standards must not be arbitrary. Like the argument of one of the defense lawyers, you can't expect New Orleans to have the same 'standards' as Cheyenne, Wyoming; just as you can't expect soccer moms to have the same 'standards' as the pierced X-gen.




Are we talking professional licensure for pornographers?
Would the exam be...nah, I can't do it.

That may be about the most absurd thing I've ever read from you mr. biggins. You wrote that seriously?Just when I thought I'd read the most absurd post ever, you post this..... Ok... righto...You've just outlawed 90% of hollywood movies good and bad.

Oh? Well, calling it absurd is absurd.