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eastbay
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:55 am |
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You think they'll quit bombing homes in Pakistan once the hit squads are sent out? No. This house bombing and the plan for hit squads is happening because liberals demand it.
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mos6507
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:48 am |
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HeckuvaJob wrote: Or, would a member of the proposed Assassination Agency tag along simply to pull the trigger or push the button? Clinton had Osama in our sights and we chose not to push the button. I see a lot of hand-wringing over the ethical dilemma of spying organizations but really, it could have saved countless lives in the end had we used them properly.
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Jotapay
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:28 am |
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Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:00 am Posts: 2954 Location: Austin, TX. The last oasis in the last free state.
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mos6507 wrote: HeckuvaJob wrote: Or, would a member of the proposed Assassination Agency tag along simply to pull the trigger or push the button? Clinton had Osama in our sights and we chose not to push the button. I see a lot of hand-wringing over the ethical dilemma of spying organizations but really, it could have saved countless lives in the end had we used them properly. Sibel Edmonds gave testimony about 3 weeks ago where she stated that Osama Bin Ladin was on the CIA payroll right up until 9/11. That's why he wasn't taken out by Clinton. Sibel Edmonds was an FBI translator and came forward with the info, claiming federal whistleblower status. John Ashcroft put a federal gag order on her for 5 years, which just expired recently. When you start to consider everything that this implies, it blows up the cute little picture our government tries to paint for us about who our leaders are.
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rangerone314
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:08 am |
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Jotapay wrote: mos6507 wrote: HeckuvaJob wrote: Or, would a member of the proposed Assassination Agency tag along simply to pull the trigger or push the button? Clinton had Osama in our sights and we chose not to push the button. I see a lot of hand-wringing over the ethical dilemma of spying organizations but really, it could have saved countless lives in the end had we used them properly. Sibel Edmonds gave testimony about 3 weeks ago where she stated that Osama Bin Ladin was on the CIA payroll right up until 9/11. That's why he wasn't taken out by Clinton. Sibel Edmonds was an FBI translator and came forward with the info, claiming federal whistleblower status. John Ashcroft put a federal gag order on her for 5 years, which just expired recently. When you start to consider everything that this implies, it blows up the cute little picture our government tries to paint for us about who our leaders are. Interesting interview with Sibel Edmonds: http://amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/
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Munqi
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:44 am |
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I really dont see the problem with this. We know you're already doing this so why not do it more efficiently?
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Jotapay
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:38 pm |
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Munqi wrote: I really dont see the problem with this. We know you're already doing this so why not do it more efficiently? Some of us don't like it one bit whether it's secret or not, that's why. After the Maine was blown up in Cuba, our leaders have thrust us into one international intervention after another to satisfy their evil and greedy intentions.
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rangerone314
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:39 pm |
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Munqi wrote: I really dont see the problem with this. We know you're already doing this so why not do it more efficiently?
. If we are worried about effieciency, let Walmart do it, or save more money by outsourcing to India or China. Dial 1 to have Osama Killed. Dial 2 to have Mahmoud Ahmadinejad killed...
_________________ An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
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rangerone314
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:46 pm |
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Jotapay wrote: Munqi wrote: I really dont see the problem with this. We know you're already doing this so why not do it more efficiently? Some of us don't like it one bit whether it's secret or not, that's why. After the Maine was blown up in Cuba, our leaders have thrust us into one international intervention after another to satisfy their evil and greedy intentions. Funny thought. A thousand years in the future, the world was prosperous, at peace, ecologically sound, and had been led there by an enlightened US. A psychotic mad genius in that time, decided to alter the timeline and used a time machine to transport a bomb back to the USS Maine in Havana Harbor, knowing that the US would take the suicide pill of adventurism.
_________________ An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
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Jotapay
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:02 pm |
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rangerone314 wrote: Funny thought. A thousand years in the future, the world was prosperous, at peace, ecologically sound, and had been led there by an enlightened US.
A psychotic mad genius in that time, decided to alter the timeline and used a time machine to transport a bomb back to the USS Maine in Havana Harbor, knowing that the US would take the suicide pill of adventurism. Interesting SciFi scenario, but it's mentioned pretty matter of factly in government documents. In planning a domestic terror attack to raise public support for an invasion of Cuba in the 1960s, the US government states it will be like the US Maine incident: Page 8: http://www.smeggys.co.uk/operation_nort ... mage=11#tt
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rangerone314
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:27 pm |
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Jotapay wrote: rangerone314 wrote: Funny thought. A thousand years in the future, the world was prosperous, at peace, ecologically sound, and had been led there by an enlightened US.
A psychotic mad genius in that time, decided to alter the timeline and used a time machine to transport a bomb back to the USS Maine in Havana Harbor, knowing that the US would take the suicide pill of adventurism. Interesting SciFi scenario, but it's mentioned pretty matter of factly in government documents. In planning a domestic terror attack to raise public support for an invasion of Cuba in the 1960s, the US government states it will be like the US Maine incident: Page 8: http://www.smeggys.co.uk/operation_nort ... mage=11#ttGood docs... I read about Northwoods before on George Washington Universities site: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
_________________ An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
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HeckuvaJob
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:15 pm |
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mos6507 wrote: Clinton had Osama in our sights and we chose not to push the button. I see a lot of hand-wringing over the ethical dilemma of spying organizations but really, it could have saved countless lives in the end had we used them properly. I don't disagree with you. I'm trying to figure out why so many knickers are twisting over something that we've been doing for a long, long time. Is it the proposed consolidation of all assassination activity under one agency that have people upset? -maybe that would at least offer some degree of oversight. Is there a fear of socialized assassination that would drive the small, mom & pop assassination shops out of business? -hey, welcome to the free market. I'm just surprised by how few of us seem to be questioning the legality of the act itself. We took the bait offered by the first word in the thread title (starts with a "D") and have turned this into a Rep/Dem slap fight. I thought this sort of thing was illegal regardless of which party was in charge. Wasn't there something signed in the '70s... No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.
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careinke
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:23 pm |
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Quote: I thought this sort of thing was illegal regardless of which party was in charge. Wasn't there something signed in the '70s... No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.
That was an Executive Order, all it takes is another Executive Order to override it. Normally assassination is a bad deal for TPTB. Which is why you don't see more of it.
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HeckuvaJob
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Post subject: Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:28 pm |
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careinke wrote: That was an Executive Order, all it takes is another Executive Order to override it. Normally assassination is a bad deal for TPTB. Which is why you don't see more of it. Well... there you have it. Has an overriding order been signed? I think we're seeing plenty of assassinations - we just call them targeted killings now.
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