Bold Predictions

VMarcHart · **Posted:** Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:34 am

Sun Jun 14, 2009

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I can easily see a time when there will be econmic overdrive shopping again--it will be called a 'Panic' and will occur just before (or just as) the looting begins.

Ludi · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:49 am

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Another movie 2012 will also be out this fall. But come Sept. many may be living these movies in real life. Things will really start to spin out of control by then. A major solar eclipse will happen on July 22 and the effects of that will kick in soon after.

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009

Triffin · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:50 am

At the risk of being tarred and feathered ..
Here's my bold prediction for BAU ..

We 'muddle' through .. Here's how ..

Acknowledge that PO is now and that we're
going to transition to an electric future ..

NuStart is fast tracked for new nukes on existing sites ..
Existing reactor fleet is agressively 'uprated'
Gen III and Gen IV 'breeder' reactors are built on existing
coal generator sites as the coal plants are 'retired'

Major push/build for utility scale CSP and Wind and
upgraded grid to move power to major markets

Government owned auto industry fast tracks plug-in
serial hybrid platform for 40-60 miles in EV mode
with multifuel on board generator for extended range ..
The shift to serial hybrid architecture for personal transport
will 'save' 70% of current gasoline usage as most trips
will be in EV mode
Battery packs designed to be easily upgraded as more
energy dense chemistries are brought to market

Liquid fuels not consummed via personal transport now
prioritized for mass transit, agriculture, and logistics/
infrastructure investments

CTL , GTL and advanced bio fuels developed to mitigate
depletion effects of conventional crude while the transition to
PHEVs is taking place ..

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Or I could just move to France

)

Triff ..

VMarcHart · **Posted:** Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:34 am

July 7, 2009

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Changes in climate will make the growing of the usually successful regional crops a haphazard endeavour at best to almost impossible in the future.

VMarcHart · **Posted:** Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:16 pm

Jul 09, 2009

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...we have 2 YEARS at best before oil production falls like a stone and 10 years before a global economic collapse (I consider the last claim very optimistic).

JJ · **Joined:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:00 am **Posts:** 1168

OF2

Face it: This whole thread is yet another failed doomer prediction.
http://peakoil.com/open/signs-of-the-be ... 3-255.html

07/14/09

timmac · **Posted:** Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:32 pm

Ludi wrote:

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Another movie 2012 will also be out this fall. But come Sept. many may be living these movies in real life. Things will really start to spin out of control by then. A major solar eclipse will happen on July 22 and the effects of that will kick in soon after.

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009

Ludi who made this prediction, or was this you, Its full of BS. :mrgreen:

VMarcHart · **Posted:** Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:44 pm

timmac wrote:

Ludi who made this prediction, or was this you, Its full of BS. :mrgreen:

Tim, it was not Ludi's own prediction. She was quoting someone else, anonymously that is.

The spirit of this thread is to gather "bold predictions" without flaming the author. The Tally, is where I've been keeping the tally, and again, without flaming. Please do contribute on both threads, but please keep it civilized.

All the best!

DantesPeak · **Posted:** Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:24 pm

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The peak of conventional oil production is at least 2040 or later.

July 14, 2009

VMarcHart · **Posted:** Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:33 am

Sun Jul 26, 2009

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We are on the brink of the next economic bubble. These various attempts will fall by the wayside as the next wave of greed gathers speed.

Outcast_Searcher · **Joined:** Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:26 pm **Posts:** 122

My prediction is that we'll muddle through as we always have. Chaos and stupidity short term, good trends and bad trends intermediate term - but life will go on in the important ways, much as before - even if we are driving different cars and paying more overall for our energy in the intermediate term.

Comment on this doomer-toned thread in general: I suspect all this extreme doom talk is largely fired up by all the fear and frustration the past year's financial panic (and the real financial losses) that have resulted.

In early 2008, I lost my father, which was expected, but is never easy. However, 5 weeks later when I learned the love of my life for 30 years had major cancer problems, and lost her six weeks after that -- it was just about unbearable, especially given the timing and my already screwed up emotional state. (Not exactly the retirement scenario I had envisioned when I left work at age 48 in July 2007).

My life will never be the same, and last summer (to quote a South Park episode) I was a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry sad Panda. However, if I just lay down and give up and say "woe is me, life is unfair", then shame on me!

The reason I bring this up is - it just seems like many folks here have given up and are constantly worrying and looking for the worst scenarios because of various stuff that MIGHT happen. If history is any guide, most of it won't - at least not the the extent most of the predictions imply, and almost certainly not all at once.

Trust me - life WILL throw enough challenging situations at you over time - you don't need to spend all your time agonizing about some that could.

Maybe each New Years, you can reflect and be glad that most of the bad stuff didn't actually happen (at least not yet).

Best of luck and life to all of us.

Ludi · **Posted:** Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:24 am

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:57 pm

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Over the next 10-20 years we will see 50-75% of the world population die. More is entirely possible. We will see the fall of once mighty nations. Some by conquest. Some by revolt. Some will fracture into smaller pieces. Trade among nations will stop. Money will become something we used to use. Food will be grown within a few miles of you if not in your backyard. You'll get your water off your roof, then filter it through a sock to remove the fallout. Medicine will be grown alongside your vegetables. Meat will be more abundant during bird migrations. You will have given up, gradually at best and likely not by choice, cable and satellite TV, dining out, internet service, air conditioning, designer jeans, new clothes, driving, refrigeration, nighttime lighting, mail, toilet paper, deodorant, shaving, running water. There are no clocks. You have not heard from your brother/uncle/daughter/mother/best friend in years. A good pair of socks is a fantastic gift. A good warm fire is the best thing. If you are not conscripted by whatever authority controls your area, and if you are not enslaved by some conquering group, you'll have all sorts of freedom.

I would consider this to be an optimistic outcome.

sittinguy · **Joined:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:00 am **Posts:** 470

That brightened up my day.

I think about the future alot, and it has made me a little depressed for the last few months. I am doing my best lately not to drink, which I did alot.

I have been thinking I better try to enjoy some of the good things I have before I look back a say I missed it.

Like, I have an old truck I restored in my 20s, my first vehicle. I better get it out and start driving and enjoying it. It only gets 6 mpg, but it is fun to drive.

I have to try and stop worrying about the future so much. But I have invested alot into being prepared so in one sense I want something to happen so I don't feel like a complete jackass for spending 2years and all my extra money for nothing.

mcgowanjm · **Joined:** Fri May 23, 2008 12:00 am **Posts:** 540

Ludi wrote:

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:57 pm

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Over the next 10-20 years we will see 50-75% of the world population die. More is entirely possible. We will see the fall of once mighty nations. Some by conquest. Some by revolt. Some will fracture into smaller pieces. Trade among nations will stop. Money will become something we used to use. Food will be grown within a few miles of you if not in your backyard. You'll get your water off your roof, then filter it through a sock to remove the fallout. Medicine will be grown alongside your vegetables. Meat will be more abundant during bird migrations. You will have given up, gradually at best and likely not by choice, cable and satellite TV, dining out, internet service, air conditioning, designer jeans, new clothes, driving, refrigeration, nighttime lighting, mail, toilet paper, deodorant, shaving, running water. There are no clocks. You have not heard from your brother/uncle/daughter/mother/best friend in years. A good pair of socks is a fantastic gift. A good warm fire is the best thing. If you are not conscripted by whatever authority controls your area, and if you are not enslaved by some conquering group, you'll have all sorts of freedom.

I would consider this to be an optimistic outcome.

Brownouts/Blackouts like Itaipu/Brazil next year become
common.

Ukraine doesn't pay for gas, gets shut off Jan 1, 2010.
Happy New Year. :roll:

US Grains to Use Stockpile drops to record low. Mar 2010.

Ludi · **Posted:** Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:25 am

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:28 pm

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The propaganda machine is well oiled...

above article wrote:

At the same time, leaders of all the major economies finally acknowledge what scientists have long been warning: to avoid catastrophic climate-change impacts, the global average surface temperature increase must be limited to 2° Celsius compared with the pre-industrial era. To stand any reasonable chance of avoiding a 2° Celsius rise, our best understanding of the climate change science suggests that global greenhouse-gas emissions must peak within the next five to 10 years, and then decline by more than 80% on 1990 levels by 2050. Realistically, meeting this requirement will demand that we engineer a transition to a zero-carbon energy system by mid-century.

TPTB have given us their timeline as well as their best numbers for decline rates.

Get ready for the next one...

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we will no longer be allowed to burn fossil fuels without capturing and sequestering the carbon dioxide emissions. This implies that we must restrict our use of fossil fuels to stationary facilities, such as power plants, where carbon capture and storage (CCS) is practical (see "Outlook and obstacles for CCS"). Strikingly, a zero-carbon energy system will also mean that no liquid hydrocarbon fuels, with the exception of biofuels, can be consumed in mobile applications such as transport.

The family station wagon is going bye bye. Do we keep making the payments?

WAIT, THERE IS A HOLE IN THE COVER STORY! Burning biofuels still produces CO2 emmissions. If climate change is the issue, we can't burn biofuels either. If biofuels are allowed then climate change is not the issue, oil decline is. If oil is the issue, then the government is lieing to us. We already knew this, but now we have the ability to gauge the reach of the propaganda machine.

All fuels animals are equal, but some fuels animals are more equal
Obama Napoleon is always right.

Control the media
Control law enforcement
Control all travel
The boots are not far off.

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