The Disappearance of Flight 19

ReverseEngineer · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1494

The latest news about still more methane bubbling up around Finland brings up a very significant problem with using airplanes.

You of course remember all the Bermuda Triangle stories about lost aircraft, the most famous of course being Flight 19 during WWII. The theory goes that the aircraft that fly through these pockets of methane floating about the atmosphere lose combustion in the plane engines due to lack of oxygen. Down they go, like a stone.

It would seem from the latest news that we have a whole lot more of these bubbles of methane floating around over the Arctic right now. This would effectively make it a No Fly Zone. As they get dispersed in upper atmosphere weather patterns, they will become Global, like a Minefield in the air for Jets.

One can also see the possibility that once sufficient methane gets released and stirred up in the atmosphere, one spark could set it off in a HUGE flash fire. You would not even need a nuclear weapon to set it off. A Bic Lighter would do the trick Wink

Anyhow, one gets the sense that this has all happenned before, perhaps many times over and the City of Atlantis really IS buried deep down there somewhere in the earth?

Expansion and contraction of the One to the Many and the Many Returning to the One again. On a smaller scale on the Earth resembling the Universe as a whole, assuming enough dark matter in the spaces between galaxies to provide enough gravitation to get the Universe to collapse back again, for another Big Bang.

As Carl Sagan said, "We are all just Star Stuff". We go back now to the One. See you on the Other Side.

Reverse Engineer

smallpoxgirl · Moderator Joined: Nov 08, 2004 Posts: 6359

Yeah. If there were giant bubbles of methane with low enough oxygen content to stall a plane, the boundaries would be extrodinarily flamable. They'd be destroyed by explosion long before their engines stalled.
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Cid_Yama

You got a bit esoteric at the end, but, yes there are methane plumes out there that could be responsible.(from things I've read) We have entered a period of Runaway Global Warming with methane outbursts firing off everywhere. But smallpoxgirl could be right, they could be pieces at the bottom of the ocean.
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ReverseEngineer · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1494

dissident · Heavy Crude Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 455

The Bermuda triangle theory rests on the notion of a seabed landslide releasing clathrate methane in large amounts. No similar process is occurring in the Arctic today. The plumes being released from seabed permafrost in shallow waters are small and are rapidly mixed in the boundary layer (below 1 km). So they will not impact any aircraft.

As for the cases in the Bermuda triangle there is nothing to exclude a detonation.

Zardoz

The leader of Flight 19 got disoriented and led his group out into the Atlantic, where they ran out of gas. He thought the Bahamas were the Florida Keys. It's all in the radio transcripts. One of the other pilots knew they were headed the wrong way and kept trying to get them to all turn around, but the flight leader insisted they keep heading east. There is no mystery about it whatsoever.
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