Has Peak Oil happen already?

Anadultmale · Coal Joined: Aug 01, 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Great Lakes

Hello,

I'm some what new to this forum. But my time reading books and dealing with new Technologies has been heavy. I think we are past "Peak Oil" and are now becoming cost effective. With E85 and other automotive technologies pushing into are cars. Data estimated for a future of less is not being seen. I hope to get this going for everone to think about. Problem with E85 is your growing the fuel. If a drought like Australia's hits. You don't know the repro of this problem. Electric cars were a great lose {See the movie (Who killed the Electic car) soon} to the future. E85 has a short fall, no corn, no fuel. Thank God this is a good year.
Also the failure of not using OHC fuel injection system (in Perth, Australia) was a major lost to effiecence. 10% more horsepower and 8 % better gas mileage.

PraiseDoom · Heavy Crude Joined: Apr 23, 2007 Posts: 297

pigleg · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Has Peak Oil happen already?

Yes, there's some interesting new technology coming along now that it is more cost effective and I suppose some of the incremental efficiency increases could help somewhat. However I think the consensus is that Ethanol is barely worthwhile in terms of net energy gain (not to mention subject to crop failures as you point out), and that the vehicle fleet will take 10-15 years to wear out and replace with newer models. Or that the best solution is to eliminate the car altogether, though I don't think you can write off the electric car just yet.
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DarthBruder · Coal Joined: Aug 14, 2007 Posts: 6

I have been lurking here for quite some time and only joined to reply to your post.
My urgent reply is this:
This topic has been discussed at great length and in great detail in these forums.
Those discussions are easy to find.......for most people.
If you can't find them, I'll sum them up: we're f**ked, plant a garden.

mgtser · Tar Sands Joined: Jul 25, 2007 Posts: 20

have we past peaked? it doesnt matter
we know its Inevitable
remember what pippin said: I don't want to be in a battle. But waiting on the edge of one I can't escape is even worse.
and so we wait...

BigTex · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Has Peak Oil happen already?

cube · Fusion Joined: Mar 12, 2005 Posts: 3784

TreebeardsUncle · Intermediate Crude Joined: Jun 15, 2006 Posts: 598

Bottom Line: Can the world's fleet of cars be run on something other than oil? Will American suburbia continue as it is if an alternative fuel were used, assuming it could be?
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allenwrench · Intermediate Crude Joined: Apr 23, 2008 Posts: 893

Do Christians and other theists pray to God to fix the PO mess?

Or do they accept mankind must pay the bill for actions of free will?

RonMN

I can't speak for all Christians, but I don't pray for God to fix this mess...I pray for guidance, protection & to calm my soul.
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dsula · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 13, 2007 Posts: 143

allenwrench · Intermediate Crude Joined: Apr 23, 2008 Posts: 893

RonMN

IMO praying at the pumps for lower prices is a tad bit like praying to win the lotto.

A bit improper, but yet funny in some warped kind of way Smile

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wisconsin_cur · Moderator Joined: May 10, 2007 Posts: 3217

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