Alaska and Pacific NW after Peak Oil?

issk · Coal Joined: Jun 21, 2008 Posts: 1

I know that only 1% of Alaska is arrable land. Yet, greenhouses exist there. And in Anchorage, from early April to early September the sun sets after 9 p.m. So crops can grow large in greenhouses to feed the local population when shipping gets too expensive to bring food to Alaska.

I mention Alaska because it seems to me that MAJOR population centers (e.g., the Lower 48 states) will have social chaos when TS hits the fan. Why live near the masses?

Anchorage, Alaska seems like a good balance between city services and the sparsely populated Alaskan peninsula. Why? Because if things get bad (socially) in an Alaskan town/city like Anchorage, one can GET OUT to where millions of people can't go (because Alaska doesn't have millions like the Lower 4 Cool

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Living in cities is important, I read, because during the Great Depression, it was the rural areas that had MASSIVE STARVATION. Paradoxically, people in cities got food. Why? Because cities had/have ORGANIZED people to distribute the food, whereas people in rural areas were NOT connected to one another (less social networks in the rural areas vs. more people networks in the cities). Sure, one had to wait in line for food in the cities of the 1930s. But in the countryside, there were NO bread lines.

In the Lower 48, if cities get chaotic and violent, one has NO FRONTIER to disappear to because even small towns are days walking distance from where the masses are (again, in the Lower 4 Cool

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Yet, Alaska without heat can get very cold (but so can the Lower 48 states).

What about a college town like Ellensburg, Washington? It is east of a natural barrier (the Cascade Mountains). Also, most of the population of Washington state lives west of the Cascade Mountains (5 million I read once vs. 1 million east of the Cascade Mountains).

Bottom line: As far as relocating, is Alaska (FAR from the masses) a good choice, or is eastern/central Washington like Ellensburg (a college town, read more educated people) better? I know that central Washington is a desert. But snow melt from the mountains irrigate volcanic-rich soil, where crops are grown in the valley east of the Cascade Mountains.

Any suggestions about which geographical area might fare better: Alaska due to its isolation from social chaos or Ellensburg, Washington?

Rogozhin

Rbaogoem · Coal Joined: Jun 22, 2008 Posts: 1 Location: Oregon Coast

Come to the southwest coast of Oregon! GOOD GRIEF, we are so far off the grid here, if the SHTF, we wouldn't know for three weeks after the fact!

Lumpy

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mmasters

The Pacific Northweast is geologically probably the most dangerous spot in the world something many seem to ignore.
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If you're living sustainably, MMasters, the impact of an earthquake shouldn't be too bad. It is the high-energy infrastructure that gets trashed in a quake.

Volcanoes are another thing, though. If you're in the way and don't have a quick way out, you're SOL.
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socrates1fan · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 04, 2008 Posts: 284

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