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Barbara
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Post subject: THE Iraqi Oil Thread pt 1 (merged) Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:01 am |
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All exports from both Bassora and Khor-Al Amaya terminals were blocked today. In Kirkuk, the pipeline is burning. Still in Kirkuk, the security manager of Northern Oil was assassinated today. No light at the end of the tunnel...
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Chichis
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Post subject: THE Iraqi Oil Thread pt 1 (merged) Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:22 pm |
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I'm wondering how many bpd were disrupted from the exploded pipelines in Iraq today/yesterday. Anyone know?
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Chichis
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:06 pm |
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I've heard a lot on the news about how the attacks will help deny funds to the Iraqi people, but what about the stress on the world's oil production? From what I can tell, we don't have the spare capacity to replace oil lost from Iraq.
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smiley
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:13 pm |
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As far as I know oil production was hovering around 1.5 mb/d. At the moment there is no oil flowing at all. Both the southern terminals as the northern pipeline are shut down.
I'm surprised how the market is taking it. The oil prices barely moved today, despite the bad news from Iraq and the unsatisfactory US stock report.
I also think that you've got a second problem for the future except attacks on the lines. With the current situation, Iraq is too unsafe to get international oil crews in. You need those to repair and develop the oil industry.
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Pops
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:21 pm |
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I think the evil doers have found the soft spot. They also got a couple of GE guys in SA I think.
Kinda makes you wonder if the big deployment of navy carrier groups the bunker boys are all talking about aren’t out guarding tankers?
_________________ The best buy to prepare for peak oil is buying less.
Make a plan and work it. -- Me
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Aaron
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:59 pm |
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_________________ The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.
Hazel Henderson
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Licho
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:07 pm |
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Lol, "evil doers", who is that?
It sounds funny to me
I thought that Iraq pipelines are sabotaged by freedom fighters..
I read that market expects dirstuption in Iraq and therefore prices don't move much.
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Pops
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:24 pm |
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Licho, "Evil Doers" is a term, or should I say code phrase, coined by our illustrious leader GW Bush: Evil being the oposite of Godly, which as everyone knows is us (US us).
In a democracy you have to play to your strengths if you want to retain power.
_________________ The best buy to prepare for peak oil is buying less.
Make a plan and work it. -- Me
www.MyGrandKidsFarm.com
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Cool Hand Linc
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Post subject: Thanks Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:32 pm |
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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:00 am Posts: 967 Location: Tulsa, Ok
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Barbara,
Can you give links to news? Thanks for the information. Can you be so kind as to continue to give the news from across the sea? Keeping us inform.
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Aaron
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:44 am |
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Quote: Information indicating that what was thought to be a huge minefield northwest of Kuwait--in the area where the US XVIII Airborne Corps would operate--was actually ground scarring from extensive oil exploration.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/gulfwar/061997/support.htm
_________________ The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.
Hazel Henderson
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grungerock
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Post subject: Iraq oil Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:56 am |
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/ ... index.html
Is that the maximum output of 1.6 Mbarrels for Iraq that they can output? Can't they go as high as more than 3MBarrels? Since there is so much politically unstable Iraq is..shouldn't capitalize on pumping out as much as possible?
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Ender
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Post subject: Re: Iraq oil Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 6:37 pm |
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grungerock wrote: Is that the maximum output of 1.6 Mbarrels for Iraq that they can output? Can't they go as high as more than 3MBarrels? Since there is so much politically unstable Iraq is..shouldn't capitalize on pumping out as much as possible?
Iraq was pumping around 2 - 2.5 million per day prior to the invasion. However, it's infrastructure was damaged during the war and has been subject to sabotage since that time. 1.6 is the best they can do at the moment, and then only when their pipelines are intact (ie even that output is sporadic).
Iraq could eventually bring it's production to very high levels (perhaps as high as 10m bpd) over the course of a few years. I don't see it happening while the US remains as effectively an occupying power. And even if they started tomorrow, and the sabotage stopped, it would take several years to reach that level even with massive investment. The world will need every last drop Iraq can produce to offset the declines elsewhere, and we're still looking at a worldwide peak before 2010.
Oh, and for anyone who says Iran is next on the hit list, ask yourself what taking 3mbpd of production out of the market for a month would do.
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smiley
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:17 am |
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Ender wrote:
Quote: Iraq could eventually bring it's production to very high levels (perhaps as high as 10m bpd) I would say that 10bpd is a bit too optimistic. I think 3-5 bpd would be more realistic. Even the ever positive EIA is quite skeptical about the prospects. http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/iraq.htmlQuote: Among other challenges in maintaining, let alone increasing, oil production capacity, were Iraq's battle with "water cut" (damaging intrusion of water into oil reservoirs) especially in the south. Quote: U.N. oil experts reportedly have estimated that some reservoirs in southern Iraq have been so badly managed that their ultimate recovery rates might be only 15%-25%, well below the 35%-60% usually seen in the oil industry.
The chances that there are still very large new oilfields out there are slim to none. Indeed the country has not yet been studied with the newest techniques, but I wouldn't expect miracles.
All the giant oil fields around the world have been found by old bearded guys with hats, walking around and studying stones. They are simply too hard to miss.
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OilsNotWell
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Post subject: Iraq Oil Exports - Conflicting Reports Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:49 pm |
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Throughout the day today, there have been reports back and forth about pipeline exports. Stopped or not?
http://tinyurl.com/42jet
http://tinyurl.com/5mfm4
http://www.portervillerecorder.com/articles/2004/08/30/ap/headlines/d84plsj01.txt
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200408/s1188488.htm
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/08/31/258.html
http://tinyurl.com/6423l
http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2004/08/30/news/news15.txt
http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=22874383&brk=1
http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=25929
http://www.smartmoney.com/bn/ON/index.cfm?story=ON-20040830-000431-1603
An unidentified port agent v. Basra Governor -
Quote: Monday's price decline came after a port agent at Iraq's key southern port of Basra denied earlier reports that pipeline attacks had brought Iraqi exports to a complete halt.
The port is "fully operational," the port agent told Dow Jones Newswires, with crude flows averaging 60,000 barrels an hour, or 1.4 million barrels a day. Until recently, Iraq had been exporting about 1.8 million barrels daily.
The agent said that the two main pipelines that carry crude from southern fields to the port were fully functional and that tankers were loading at the port.
The pumping rate at Basra had been averaging about 72,000 barrels an hour but Monday's slightly reduced rate could be considered "normal," the agent said.
Confusion about the status of exports had stemmed from an attack on an another pipeline in the area, he said.
"The only two pipelines we are concerned with in terms of exports are the 42 (inch) and the 48 (inch) pipelines. There was an attack on a 47 (inch) pipeline at the weekend, but we are not even sure where the pipeline goes. It does not impact exports at Basra though," he said. Quote: Oil exports, which have been falling for days because of a string of insurgent attacks, came to a complete stop from southern pipelines, which account for 90 percent of Iraq's exports, after an explosion Sunday.
Two senior officials of the South Oil Co., speaking Monday on condition of anonymity, said the southern lines were not likely to resume operations for at least a week. Iraq's other export avenue, a northern pipeline to the Turkish Mediterranean port of Ceyhan, also carried no oil Monday, according to an oil official in Ceyhan.
Basra Gov. Hassan al-Rashid confirmed that oil exports in the south were halted completely Monday. "Yes, they are stopped," he told The Associated Press.
AP, however, has not retracted their story, as far as I can tell...Can someone help decipher this?
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OilsNotWell
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:19 pm |
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AP still holding on to their report. I find the timing of the earlier report of continuing oil flows curious, but who knows? There have been so many pipeline attacks recently, it's hard to keep track.
Quote: Associated Press Reports
Last modified Monday, August 30, 2004 3:01 PM PDT
Attacks Halt Oil Exports From South Iraq
By ABBAS FAYADH
BASRA, Iraq - Senior Iraqi oil officials said crude exports from southern Iraq were halted Monday because of attacks on pipelines, although some U.S.-based traders said other reports suggested that supplies were still flowing.
As a result, oil prices plunged by nearly $1 a barrel at the New York Mercantile Exchange.
Two senior officials of the South Oil Co., speaking Monday on condition of anonymity, said the southern pipelines were not likely to resume operations for at least a week. Iraq's other export avenue, a northern pipeline to the Turkish Mediterranean port of Ceyhan, also carried no oil Monday, according to an oil official in Ceyhan. Those lines have also been repeatedly attacked.
'); // --> Basra Gov. Hassan al-Rashid confirmed that oil exports in the south were halted completely Monday. "Yes, they are stopped," he told The Associated Press.
Al-Rashid said the country was losing $70 million a day because of the attacks on pipelines and oil fields. Oil flows out of Iraq's southern pipelines account for 90 percent of the nation's exports.
The latest strikes, which hit five pipelines linked to the southern Rumeila oil fields on Sunday, immediately shut down the Zubayr 1 pumping station, forcing officials to use reserves from storage tanks to keep exports flowing for several hours. The reserves ran out late Sunday, the South Oil Co. official said.
Energy traders in New York attempting to digest conflicting reports about Iraqi oil exports said Monday that what was most significant, perhaps, was the market's initially muted reaction to news that exports had stopped. Rather than shooting up, prices only inched higher, suggesting that broader supply fears have abated somewhat.
Regardless of just how badly the oil flow has been hindered, "two weeks ago, with that news, we would have been up more than $1," said Tom Bentz, a trader at BNP Paribas Futures in New York. "The tide has definitely turned."
The job of guarding oil pipelines primarily falls to the U.S.-trained Iraqi infrastructure protection service, although some U.S. soldiers continue to be to be involved. But with about 4,350 miles of pipelines crisscrossing the country, officials concede there are many places for saboteurs to strike.
Nevertheless, oil prices fell as traders continued a selloff amid easing fears that disruptions in Iraq, Russia or Venezuela could cause a supply squeeze. October contracts for light sweet crude fell by 90 cents to $42.28 on Nymex _ well below peaks of over $48 a barrel in mid-August.
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