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EarthGamePlayer
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:47 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:00 am Posts: 41 Location: The Great White North eh?
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The next step?
WASHINGTON, Jan. 26 -- American soldiers will do what they must to protect themselves from Iranian agents operating inside Iraq, the White House said today, following a report that President Bush had authorized the killing of Iranian agents.
Bush Back Forces Against Iranians in Iraq
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seahorse2
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:21 pm |
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Is Iran trying to get an ICBM? Article in Jerusalem post thinks so.
Jerusalem Post
Iran takes delivery of high tech missiles from Russia.
Quote: The ITAR-Tass agency on Tuesday quoted Sergei Chemezov, the head of Russia's state-run weapons exporter, as saying that Russia had delivered all the missiles and fulfilled the contract before the end of December.
According to ITAR-Tass, the weapons were expected to be used to protect major government and military installations, including nuclear facilities such as the power plant Russia is building in the city of Bushehr. Iran denies U.S. accusations that it is using its nuclear power program as a cover to develop nuclear weapons.
International Herald Tribune
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seahorse2
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:11 pm |
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The man Bush has picked for Deputy Secretary of State tells US Senate committee that "Iran cannot go unchallenged." Although he says US should try diplomacy, he then says:
Quote: "I would characterize our policy as desirous of resolving any issues we have with Iran by peaceful means. But at the same time, we don't believe that their behavior, such as supporting Shia extremists in Iraq, should go unchallenged," Negroponte said at his Senate confirmation hearing.
Yahoo News
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Micki
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:56 pm |
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Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:00 am Posts: 2400 Location: Australia
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More sabrerattling while there is more news coming through showing that Iran is far far away from developing any a-bombs even if they tried.
Quote: Iran's efforts to produce highly enriched uranium, the material used to make nuclear bombs, are in chaos and the country is still years from mastering the required technology. ... -a number of Western diplomats and technical experts close to the Iranian programme have told The Observer it is archaic, prone to breakdown and lacks the materials for industrial-scale production.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2000303,00.html
I am really getting sick and tired of this.
What will it take to impeach that luny in the whitehouse?
_________________ Gold is the money of Monarchs, Silver is the money of gentlemen, Barter is the money of peasants, Debt is the money of slaves - LeMetropoleCafe
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Zardoz
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:29 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:00 am Posts: 6603 Location: Oil-addicted Southern Californucopia
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Whew! Thank God for this! We can all relax now:
Bush Says Invading Iran 'Not the Plan'
Quote: President Bush believes he might have been misunderstood when he started speaking about the need to go after Iran for its involvement in aiding the insurgency in Iraq.
As he traveled to Illinois today to share good news on the economy, he said the subject has been overshadowed by the war in Iraq, and he clarified his stance on Iran, which he does not plan to invade.
Okay, we're cool. Everybody back to sleep.
_________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
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Battle_Scarred_Galactico
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:36 am |
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Iran is far far away from developing any a-bombs even if they tried.
Well I can't say either way how far away they are, but I'm pretty sure Isreal doesn't agree with you.
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EnergyUnlimited
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:31 am |
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Battle_Scarred_Galactico wrote: Iran is far far away from developing any a-bombs even if they tried.
Well I can't say either way how far away they are, but I'm pretty sure Isreal doesn't agree with you.
BTW, North Korea was also far away, until last year.
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Dreamtwister
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:37 am |
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EnergyUnlimited wrote: Battle_Scarred_Galactico wrote: Iran is far far away from developing any a-bombs even if they tried.
Well I can't say either way how far away they are, but I'm pretty sure Isreal doesn't agree with you. BTW, North Korea was also far away, until last year. No they weren't. They have had nuclear technology for several years. What they lacked was a delivery system capable of reaching mainland US targets. http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/nuke/index.htmlQuote: Tensions between the United States and North Korea have been running especially high since, in early October of 2002, Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly informed North Korean officials that the United States was aware that North Korea had a program underway to enrich uranium for use in nuclear weapons. Initially North Korea denied this, but later confirmed the veracity of the US claim.
Read the whole article. North Korea's weapons program started back in 1985, and intelligence reports confirm they have had sufficient plutonium to create a nuclear weapon since at least 1994.
Iran, as far as I can determine, has a whopping 164 centrifuges operating, and have only enriched the uranium to about 3.5%. At the rate Iran's program is progressing, they should be able to extract enough plutonium for a *single* 20kt weapon some time in the year 2015.
Hardly the "imminent threat" the administration is suggesting.
_________________ The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Zardoz
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:36 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:00 am Posts: 6603 Location: Oil-addicted Southern Californucopia
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Gideon wrote: If you read the news in Israel as a source of information, then let me save you a lot of reading and summarize the next 5 years of hadashim as follows:
Anybody who is a non-Jew is an antisemite. Anybody who is a Jew who speaks out against Israel is a selfhating Jew. Anything that helps Israel develop and maintain a racist state is to be supported, even if it is evil. Anything that does not help Israel develop and maintain a racist state, even if it is good, is to be opposed, vehemently, with any lies, conspiracy, and murder required.
Well, yeah, but they have very good reason to be so hysterically paranoid, don'tcha think?
I mean, Jesus Christ, everybody really is out to get them...
_________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
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Dreamtwister
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:47 pm |
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Zardoz wrote: I mean, Jesus Christ, everybody really is out to get them...
And why do you suppose that is? It's the chicken and the egg.
_________________ The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Beat
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:26 am |
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Quote: Iran Clock Is Ticking
by Robert Parry
Military and intelligence sources continue to tell me that preparations are advancing for a war with Iran starting possibly as early as mid-to-late February. The sources offer some differences of opinion over whether Bush might cite a provocation from Iran or whether Israel will take the lead in launching air strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities.
But there is growing alarm among military and intelligence experts that Bush already has decided to attack and simply is waiting for a second aircraft carrier strike force to arrive in the region-- and for a propaganda blitz to stir up some pro-war sentiment at home.
One well-informed U.S. military source called me in a fury after consulting with Pentagon associates and discovering how far along the war preparations are. He said the plans call for extensive aerial attacks on Iran, including use of powerful bunker-busting ordnance.
Another source with a pipeline into Israeli thinking said the Iran war plan has expanded over the past several weeks. Earlier thinking had been that Israeli warplanes would hit Iranian nuclear targets with U.S. forces in reserve in case of Iranian retaliation, but now the strategy anticipates a major U.S. military follow-up to an Israeli attack, the source said. .....
source http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne ... tickin.htm
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seahorse
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:09 pm |
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Let's look at the timing of a war with Iran through Israel's eyes.
1. Israel probably doesn't have the ability to do it alone. Even if they do, they certainly would be better of from reprisal with the US in the area. Since the US congress is verging on demanding a withdraw, and with Bush leaving office in 2 years, this puts a time table on Israel conducting a strike while the US is still in the area in sufficient force to help her or help protect her from reprisal.
2. Early early on in some of these Iranian threads, I posted some news articles out of Israel which said, in no uncertain terms, that the Israeli's would not allow the Iranians to get spy satellite capability. Iran with a spy satellite would mean it would be difficult for Israel to launch a surprise first strike, and would also allow the Iranians to better hone in on targets in Israel. The Iranians have not yet launched their own satellite, but I saw on CNN the Iranians are still working on putting their own spy satellite into orbit.
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Zardoz
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:43 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:00 am Posts: 6603 Location: Oil-addicted Southern Californucopia
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Dreamtwister wrote: Zardoz wrote: I mean, Jesus Christ, everybody really is out to get them... And why do you suppose that is?
Christians hate them because their belief system contradicts the concept that is the very foundation of the Christian belief system.
Muslims hate them because they aren't Muslims.
Meanwhile, you people need to stop worrying so obsessively about us invading Iran. We have the personal assurance of our new Secretary of Defense that we're not going to do a thing to our Iranian friends:
Defense secretary: No plans for war with Iran
Come, now. Would he lie to us?
_________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
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Dreamtwister
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:16 am |
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seahorse wrote: 2. Early early on in some of these Iranian threads, I posted some news articles out of Israel which said, in no uncertain terms, that the Israeli's would not allow the Iranians to get spy satellite capability. Iran with a spy satellite would mean it would be difficult for Israel to launch a surprise first strike, and would also allow the Iranians to better hone in on targets in Israel. The Iranians have not yet launched their own satellite, but I saw on CNN the Iranians are still working on putting their own spy satellite into orbit.
Sinah-1
That ship has sailed, so to speak. The Iranians can't deliver their own satellites into orbit yet, but they already have at least one up there.
_________________ The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Mesuge
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:18 am |
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?Do you really think that the Chinese or Russians won't sent them last minute warning from their satelite capability about the forthcomming Israeli attack?
That's just not realistic..
Obviously such a warning would mean that Iran can mount the assymetric warfare response and sink some of the US fleet and halt much of the energy exports from the region, which would be US dominated anyway. So, hard decision-making, but Russia&China will help at least with some limited intel transfer that's obvious..
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