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biofuel13
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:49 pm |
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seahorse
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:00 am |
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IAEA chief "joins the chorus" and says Iran could make a nuke in six months to a year. Whatever happened to the old within 10 years line? Is it merely coincidence that all these new time tables now coincide with the ending of the Bush Presidency? Maybe, I'm just seeing ghosts. I promise that I will relax about my worst fear, an attack on Iran, after Bush leaves office and we have a new sitting president. Until then, I remain concerned.
Quote: IAEA Chief: Iran Could Make Nuke In 6 Months CBS News Interactive: About Iran DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (CBS) ― The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency said Iran could create a nuclear weapon in six months.
IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei spoke on Al-Arabiya television on June 20, discussing Iran's nuclear program, and the potential for the Middle Eastern country to produce a nuclear weapon.
"If Iran wants to turn to the production of nuclear weapons, it must leave the NPT, expel the IAEA inspectors, and then it would need at least, considering the number of centrifuges and the quantity of uranium Iran has...It would need at least six months to one year," ElBaradei said.
"Therefore, Iran will not be able to reach the point where we would wake up one morning to an Iran with a nuclear weapon," he said.
His interviewer then asked "If Iran decides today to expel the IAEA from the country, it will need six months to produce [nuclear] weapons?"
The IAEA chief answered, "It would need this period to produce a weapon, and to obtain highly-enriched uranium in sufficient quantities for a single nuclear weapon."
The ElBaradei interview was conducted one day after reports emerged of a large-scale military exercise by Israel.
U.S. officials said they thought the Israeli exercises were meant to warn Iran of Israel's abilities to hit its nuclear sites.
ElBaradei also warned that he will resign as chief of the UN nuclear agency if Iran is attacked by any country.
"I always think of resigning in the event of a military strike...If military force is used, I would conclude that there is no mechanism left for me to defend," he said.
"The reports this week of Israeli military maneuvers, which took place in early June, provoked the IAEA warning," said CBS News Foreign Affairs Pamela Falk, who is based at the U.N., "because atomic energy chief ElBaradei has been pleading with Iran to accept a new package of incentives before another round of sanctions would be imposed."
"The problem in the region is that, as time passes and the clock is ticking on Iran's uranium enrichment program, there is a fear that Israel will act, as it did in Syria last year, to attack at least one of Iran's nuclear facilities," said Falk, who was in Saudi Arabia earlier this week.
"Israel is evidently the most threatened by the last IAEA report, which concluded that there are unanswered questions about Iran's ability to eventually develop nuclear weapons," said Falk, "so it is elBaradei himself who produced the report that is making Israel nervous."
Meanwhile, Iran is reiterating its decision to continue enriching uranium, calling Western pressure to suspend the work "illogical."
The statement by a government spokesman came as Europe waits for Iran's formal answer to an international package of incentives designed to rein in its nuclear program.
Iran's official IRNA news agency quoted Iranian spokesman Gholam Hossein Elham on Saturday as saying that his country will respond to the package at a convenient time.
The package would give Tehran economic incentives, and the chance to develop alternate light-water reactors, in return for dropping the uranium enrichment.
(© 2008 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.)
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ROCKMAN
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:40 am |
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For all a couple of points to bounce around our collective intelligence.
Regarding Vz oil going to China they penned that deal over a year ago. I forget the exact numbers but it was an escalating increase over five years of significance. I think the high end of delivery was 600,000 bopd.
As far as US intervention in the export of that oil I think it would require a very extreme situation here. That oil wouldn't belong to Vz. It would belong to China. Over the last 5 years China has invested over $4 billion in the Vz oil infrastructure. Hijacking their oil on the high seas would be considered an declaration of war by almost anyone's standard.
Regarding Iran's ability to develop a functional nuke I'm not sure that's the important issue. Though I have seen every Hollywood scenario of nuclear holocost I don't view myself as an absolute expert but possessing the enriched material itself is a potentially menacing development. Everyone knows about dirty bombs so we'll skip the details. But a sky blast of a nuke over Isreal would spread a lot of harm to the Arab world as well as many others down wind. It would seem that delivering a dirty bomb into Isr. territory would accomplish the goal: most, if not all, of the pop. would have to be relocated...essentially Isr would cease to exist as a nation. We all know Iran has rockets that can reach Isr. And ground transport can't be ruled out. Just like horseshoes...close counts.
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RonMN
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:22 am |
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I just saw a 4 minute blurb on the TV news (no link).
An UNCONFIRMED report that Iran is moving it's missiles it "launch position".
_________________ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
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IndigoMoon
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:47 am |
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RonMN wrote: I just saw a 4 minute blurb on the TV news (no link).
An UNCONFIRMED report that Iran is moving it's missiles it "launch position".
What station was it? I'll see if I can find it.
_________________ Live simply, love generously, care deeply, and speak kindly.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass;
It's about learning how to dance in the rain.
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IndigoMoon
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:56 am |
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_________________ Live simply, love generously, care deeply, and speak kindly.
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It's about learning how to dance in the rain.
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:38 am |
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Israel National News? I don't have an active subscription to a resource background database, but could someone that does post some info?
This _sounds_ like war drums and "immediate threat" talk, but without knowing the credibility of the sources we're just guessing.
IndigoMoon wrote:
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IndigoMoon
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:55 am |
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jbrovont wrote: Israel National News? I don't have an active subscription to a resource background database, but could someone that does post some info? This _sounds_ like war drums and "immediate threat" talk, but without knowing the credibility of the sources we're just guessing. IndigoMoon wrote:
Thank you jbrovant for echoing my concern on the validity of the sources.
Now this one. FYI- I am simply searching Google news using the term Iran missile and sorting by date.
Iran, West Up the Ante. This one is out of New York.
_________________ Live simply, love generously, care deeply, and speak kindly.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass;
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:58 am |
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:35 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:10 pm |
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My apologies if this has been posted:
Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran
" WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.
An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.
An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.
White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker. "
Link: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/ ... index.html
_________________ "The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays, is coming to a close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences…"
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:36 pm |
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Not sure if this has been posted due to multiple Iran threads, from an Iranian news agency:
Quote: Iran to Control World's Bottleneck if Attacked
TEHRAN (FNA)- Commander of Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) said Iran will impose controls on shipping in the vital Persian Gulf oil transit route if it comes under attack.
"Naturally every country under attack by an enemy uses all its capacity and opportunities to confront the enemy. Regarding the main route for exiting energy, Iran will definitely act to impose control on the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz," IRGC commander-in-chief Major General Mohammad Ali Jafari told Jam-e Jam newspaper.
Israel and its staunch ally the United States have recently intensified their threats to launch military action against Iran to make Tehran drop what they allege to be a non-peaceful nuclear program, while a recent report by 16 US intelligence bodies endorsed the civilian nature of Iran's programs.
Fars News Agency
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RonMN
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:28 pm |
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I'm wishing this is just more saber ratteling (wish wish hope hope) 
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biofuel13
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:49 pm |
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I'm somewhere between panic attack and nervous breakdown tonite as I read these headlines. I'm supposed to start a new job in the morning and my head says I should show up. My gut on the other hand is chanting....Time to bug out......time to bug out.....
Can't shake the feeling that TS is mere inches away from HTF.
_________________ "With man gone will there be hope for gorilla? With gorilla gone will there be hope for man?" --Ishmael by D. Quinn
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biofuel13
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Post subject: Re: Iran- Latest News Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:49 pm |
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_________________ "With man gone will there be hope for gorilla? With gorilla gone will there be hope for man?" --Ishmael by D. Quinn
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