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What you gonna do when the bombs start to fall?

 

It’s a near miracle that nuclear war has so far been avoided.

 

-Noam Chomsky

 

Let’s imagine for a few minutes that the ongoing-global-currency war and proxy wars somehow, unexpectedly, blow up into a world war directly involving you, wherever it is that you live.  Specifically, imagine that one side is able to achieve surprise, and as you sit at your desk, today, the power and all telecommunications go out without warning.  Within 15 minutes, everyone notices a large amount of what is obviously military aircraft activity, evidenced by sonic booms, and soon there are several very bright flashes on the horizon in the direction of the closest military base.

The odds of this actually happening are not zero.

You may very well survive a nuclear war.  Did you know that there have been over 500 above-ground detonations of nuclear weapons. 

As an exercise, please consider the following questions:

How do you think most others around you would react?

Do you already have a plan that you would implement for this type of scenario?

What immediate action(s) would you take?

What are the three most likely perils you might face?

What is the thing you could do, now, to most improve your chance of surviving each of these three perils?

Here are my responses.

How do you think most others around you would react?  I believe the amount of panic in any major American city, like mine, would be absolutely hellacious, literally, and streets would become impassable to cars almost immediately.  Many people would either become catatonic with disbelief, die of a heart attack, or quickly progress from fear to the emotion that most know best, anger.  People would resort to any and all measures to try to get out of the cities.

Do you already have a plan that you would implement for this type of scenario?  Yes.

What immediate action(s) would you take?  I would ride a motorcycle (very quickly) on train tracks, or other previously reconnoitered route, to one of several pre-planned rally points that have a bomb and fallout shelter.

What are the three most likely perils you might face?  1) Nuclear weapon blast or fallout 2) Lack of drinking water 3) Starvation

What is the thing you could do, now, to most improve your chance of surviving each of these three perils?  1) Remember the excellent information in this goofy dude’s videos. 2) Have water stored at shelter 3) Have food stored at shelter.

Do you even know where to find a fallout shelter?  How quickly can you get to one?  Will you be able to get in?

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

zerohedge



39 Comments on "What you gonna do when the bombs start to fall?"

  1. makati1 on Thu, 22nd Oct 2015 8:01 pm 

    This one should be good for hundreds of comments. Especially from the deniers of nuclear war possibilities. We are 3 minutes from midnight on the nuclear clock. We have only be that close twice in 70 years.

    http://thebulletin.org/timeline

    The US is no longer protected by two oceans. Foreign subs can be off the coasts and probably are on a regular basis. That gives only minutes of warning, not hours.

    Fleeing the cities would be useless. You would likely never make it, even with hours. Being in the burbs would not be much better. And no place would be safe from fallout and the ensuing cancers that will slowly kill you over months or years with no treatments available.

    Nukes will not be survivable no matter what the author wants to believe. When they fly, 500 will just be the first salvo by one side. Ten missiles can carry that many warheads today. Hundreds of missiles will be in the air in the first hour. Then it will be over, except for the dying.

    Scary thoughts this Halloween holiday season, No?

  2. makati1 on Thu, 22nd Oct 2015 8:03 pm 

    Ooops! 50 missiles can carry 500 warheads, not 10 missiles.

  3. makati1 on Thu, 22nd Oct 2015 8:58 pm 

    Companion article on ZH…

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-22/putin-just-warned-global-war-increasingly-more-likely-heres-why

    Nuff said.

  4. peakyeast on Thu, 22nd Oct 2015 10:05 pm 

    In case of nuclear war – I will use my remaining time killing as many people as possible that has shown themselves to be evil, but has been protected by a sick justice system.

  5. ghung on Thu, 22nd Oct 2015 10:06 pm 

    Fallout shelter?! Born in the 50s, I know what that is and did the drills in grade school; duck-and-cover, all that, but I’m sure most folks born after the 60s don’t have a clue. Seems the government figured out there wasn’t much point. I still have an old fallout shelter sign fallout shelter sign from the church where I grew up. My dad built one (fallout shelter) in the basement when I was about 4. Not sure how bad that fucked me up; knowing the world could end any minute, huddled in the basement with family and dogs. What were they thinking anyway?

    Who the hell knows where the nearest fallout shelter is these days, even if there is such a thing outside of government and military facilities? Tunrs out there’s a Wikipedia page. A snippet:

    “Switzerland

    Switzerland built an extensive network of fallout shelters, not only through extra hardening of government buildings such as schools, but also through a building regulation requiring nuclear shelters in residential buildings since the 1960s (the first legal basis in this sense dates from 4 October 1963). Later, the law ensured that all residential building built after 1978 contained a nuclear shelter able to withstand a blast from a 12 megaton explosion at a distance of 700 metres.[8] The Federal Law on the Protection of the Population and Civil Protection still requires nowadays that every inhabitant should have a place in a shelter close to where they live.[7]

    The Swiss authorities also maintains large communal shelters (such as the Sonnenberg Tunnel) stocked with over four months of food and fuel.[8] The reference Nuclear War Survival Skills declared that, as of 1986, “Switzerland has the best civil defense system, one that already includes blast shelters for over 85 percent of all its citizens.”[9] As of 2006, there were about 300,000 shelters built in private homes, institutions and hospitals, as well as 5,100 public shelters for a total of 8.6 million places, a level of coverage equal to 114% of the population.[7]

    In Switzerland, most residential shelters are no longer stocked with the food and water required for prolonged habitation and a large number have been converted by the owners to other uses (e.g., wine cellars, ski rooms, gyms).[8] But the owner still has the obligation to ensure the maintenance of the shelter.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_shelter

    Whooda thunk? Anyway, I live so far from anything worth bombing, my first response would be to check the prevailing winds and hope the kids can get here. After that, who the fuck knows? Maybe pump the water tanks full, set up a filtered positive house pressurization system, and stockpile soil and compost under cover. Not sure I would brave the stores when word gets out.

    Most communications would likely be out, but I would hook the shortwave up to the longwire and do my best to get information. Lately all I get is Radio Moscow, Cuba, and whacko Southern Baptist preachers. Wouldn’t that be rich; they become the communications hubs for post-nuclear war America; old bigots on the Amateur radio bands.

  6. makati1 on Thu, 22nd Oct 2015 10:14 pm 

    And even more…

    “Superyacht Getaway Subs And Luxury Bomb Shelters: The Elite Are The Most Paranoid Preppers Of All”

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/superyacht-getaway-subs-and-luxury-bomb-shelters-the-elite-are-the-most-paranoid-preppers-of-all

    Are you prepared? How’s that bomb shelter coming? Shades of the 50s, lol.

  7. ghung on Thu, 22nd Oct 2015 10:19 pm 

    … and for your viewing pleasure, here’s what they showed us for entertainment in grade school:

    Duck And Cover (1951) Bert The Turtle Civil Defense Film

    Survival Under Atomic Attack – 1951 American Civil Defense Educational Film

    …and when all else fails, bend over, grab your ankles, place your head between you knees, and kiss your ass goodbye.

  8. makati1 on Thu, 22nd Oct 2015 10:30 pm 

    ghung, 1951 and I was in 2nd grade. Yep, I remember duck and cover. I remember the bomb shelter my dad built into the basement corner when I was 12. Obviously they knew nothing about radioactivity and only wanted to protect from the blast. We did live near Carlisle, the Army War college with 600 assorted military brass and their families in residence.

    Today, there is no safe place. Even our farm here in the Ps, far away from any nuke-worthy target, would eventually have fallout. Perhaps it would be better to be under the bulls-eye and be vaporized?

  9. ghung on Thu, 22nd Oct 2015 10:37 pm 

    But Mak, I’m pretty sure I know what the PTB at the Pentagon were thinking. Scare the shit out of everybody and they’ll pay for anything. Not unlike the Patriot Act, WMDs, mass surveillance, etc.

  10. Anonymouse on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 12:17 am 

    Missile defense systems are rapidly advancing and by 2030 it may be viable to stop elements of a massed nuclear attack.

    This can be done by stopping ICBM’s midcourse with GBI’s and Multiple object kill vehicles, combined with sensors that can differentiate decoys from actual warheads. Then we put AEGIS ashore on our seaboards and other areas to stop close in attacks by SLBM’s.

    It may be possible to create a viable shield with emerging and existing technology. Once this proliferates and gets developed by multiple nations across the world, war becomes more likely, because people have a reasonable expectation of survival in the face of nuclear annihilation.

    Then we have the factor of physical resource depletion and scarcity.

    I predict its going to get extremely ugly and dangerous mid-century in terms of politics when state actors no longer have to fear conventional nuclear annihilation, and are impoverished.

    Oh well, only the dead know true peace. What a time to be alive.

  11. GregT on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 12:30 am 

    “I predict its going to get extremely ugly and dangerous mid-century”

    I would consider you to be overly optimistic. I give it ten years or less.

  12. BC on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 2:07 am 

    My father, a contemporary of Kurt Vonnegut, survived the Normandy landings and thereafter the Hell-on-Earth shelling during the Battle of the Bulge, including frostbite, loss of hearing, fingers, and toes, and his mates frozen in their pi$$ and excrement, loss of communications to the rear, commanding officers going insane, comrades committing suicide with their own weapons during relentless, unceasing artillery attacks, and German snipers pinning down and dispatching anyone who dared move from their frozen foxholes/trenches.

    He never said a word about any of his experience until his last six months of life during which he told his story while courageously and graciously succumbing to death by “natural causes”.

    I cannot watch WW I or WW II documentaries or such films as “Saving Private Ryan” after my father’s recounting his experience.

    The epitaph on his gravestone by his request: “War reduces us to butchers of our fellow men for the benefit of elites, who are not worthy of even one of us.”

    “And so it goes” . . .

  13. GregT on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 2:26 am 

    I remember staying up late one night back in 2003, watching the US invasion of Iraq of TV. I couldn’t help but think to myself; Here we are in the 21st century, and we still haven’t learned a damn thing. I have now come to the conclusion that we never will. The human race is a dead end.

    Sorry about what your Dad went through BC. It sounds like he was a good man.

  14. makati1 on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 2:44 am 

    BC, my dad dropped into D-Day as a parachutist for the 82nd. Most of his team were killed before they even hit the ground. He too never talked about any of it until his last years. It was not something he wanted to remember, I guess. I have his pictures and other papers from those years, and his patches and medals.

    He did get to go to Normandy on the 60th anniversary of D-Day, outfitted in an authentic parachutist uniform, patches and medals from the museum at Camp Blanding, Florida, where he trained as a parachutist and where he served as a guide after retirement. The French treated him like royalty. Some of his stuff is now in that same museum. He passed a few years ago at age 88.

  15. Cloud9 on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 6:23 am 

    Most of the things we worry about never happen. Love your little ones. Make reasonable preparations. Hide and watch.

  16. shortonoil on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 6:53 am 

    OHHHHH – probably about what every other higher life form on the planet will do — die!

    And if you don’t right away you will probably wish that you had.

    Mr. Chomsky seems to be losing it.

  17. peakyeast on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 7:23 am 

    @BC: WoW – thanks for telling us this.

    And what a great epitah he chose !

    I give you my sincirest condolences and respect to your father.

  18. Davy on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 7:25 am 

    Yea, G-man, I was born in the early 60’s and I still remember fallout shelters and they had an impact on me. It was a feeling of existential threat at a very early age. I can still see the signs in my mind’s eye and still feel that empty exposed feeling kids get.

    I am very much at risk of NUK war. There is a major base in Fort Leonard wood not too far as the crow flies. I am out of the blast zone but depending on the wind at risk for fallout. Speaking of short wave radio that is on my prep list. I have just not got there yet.

    The issue of NUK war is horrible. Those that survive it will live a hell on earth for who know how long before stability returns if stability would ever return. NUK winter and radiation issues will blanket the earth. The food chain will be destroyed. The combination of these issues will surely bring our population down well under 500Mil.

    I am saying this with my teeth clinched but isn’t this what we need. Don’t we need our global population to fall to bellow 500MIL quickly with and end to modern industrial man? How else are we going to get there? We are not going to organize and manage our way there.

    We are trapped. We either make the best of a sinking ship or destroy the ship except for a lifeboat or two. Choose your poison, quit the whining, and man up. I am not going to play God and pull the trigger but I will be honest enough to say we are shit out of luck. There are no options that will cure this disease of our modern man except different extremes of ugly.

    We can slow the pain and suffering down by going into crisis now. Crisis now will kill off millions as a start because the economy and food chain will shrink. We have a little low hanging fruit of changes in bad attitudes and lifestyles. We can force the issue of population and consumption pressures.

    We cannot continue the happy face and everyday low prices the cornucopians preach. We have to get in the soup kitchen line and take hand-me-downs of the post limits of growth world. Either we embrace mass poverty by effective change and hope for the best or we continue on the train wreck in motion and expect a greater ugly.

    The other option is global suicide. Isn’t it a sad testament to human kind that a real option for ending the scourge of human overpopulation and consumption is the total devastation of NUK war? Put that on our grave stone for a future intelligent species to learn from.

  19. peakyeast on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 7:31 am 

    @Davy: I think most people – perhaps even those in the wilderness are at risk of nukes.

    I remember when the CCCP disintergrated their military storages were opened.

    We saw the plans for invading Denmark back then…

    150+ Nukes for Denmark alone very nicely spread out over the entire country – and Denmark is not a large country.

    They had road signs in Russian to put up at every major road.

    Train conversion kits so they could use our tracks.

  20. deadlykillerbeaz on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 8:47 am 

    All of the nuclear power plants will probably meltdown within days, so your chances of survival are about zero.

    A mass migration to Patagonia will be your only hope, you won’t make it alone.

    I worked on the railroad as a gandy dancer many moons ago now. One night I was awakened by a screaming voice yelling, “No, no, don’t kill me, don’t kill me.”

    I had to bring the man to his senses and woke him from his nightmare. He was scared shitless.

    The next day he explained to me that he had seen many women and children killed in a town in Germany while he was a soldier during WWII.

    There have been 1534 above and below ground detonations of nuclear devices, two of them were used in war.

    Those gamma rays will go right through you, damage somaplasm, cause malignant neoplasms, it’ll be real bad.

    War is hell.

  21. ghung on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 8:49 am 

    Davy said; “Speaking of short wave radio that is on my prep list.”

    I recommend a Tecsun PL-660. I love my Grundig G3, but it’s a little quirky. Both have external antenna jacks, use AA batteries (rechargeable or regular), both have full SW/LW coverage with SSB, Aircraft band, AM, FM; all must-haves, and they’re small and efficient. The Tecsun also has a USB jack.

    A long wire antenna can be easily constructed; plenty of plans on the web. Avoid the cheap SW radios you see in many catalogues.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004H9C4JK?*Version*=1&*entries*=0

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001QTXKEW?*Version*=1&*entries*=0

  22. joe on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 8:54 am 

    When the bombs start falling I hope I live long enough to be able to pray for those who let them fly, then like 99% of people I will die.

  23. BobInget on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 9:00 am 

    Saudis poking Bear in nuts…
    Don’t forget, oil is not a sideline export for Russia.

    “Russia and India Report 23 October”
    Russia’s share in the European oil market is under threat as European refineries boost their purchase of crude from Saudi Arabia, reports Russian online publication Gazeta.ru, citing a source in the petroleum industry.

    According to Reuters, several oil majors have stepped up purchases of Saudi crude oil for their refineries in Western Europe and the Mediterranean in recent months, including Exxon, Shell, Total, and Eni.

    Igor Sechin, head of the Russian state-controlled oil major Rosneft, said on October 13 that Saudi Arabia had started selling oil in Poland at prices that were below market rates. While this could spell trouble for Moscow’s share of the lucrative European energy market, Russian analysts have been cautious in their assessments of this trend.

    “Oil from Saudi Arabia was present on the European market before. In 2010, Europe accounted for some 10 percent of Saudi oil exports, about 30 million tons,” said Alexander Pasechnik, head of research at the National Energy Security Fund.

    According to Pasechnik, the issue is the emergence of a new logistics corridor rather than simply a redistribution of market shares.

    “The Polish port of Gdansk has started receiving oil consignments from Saudi Arabia. There may be conditions for a rise in cooperation here and, as a consequence, certain risks for Russia,” he said.

    Is Saudi oil so dangerous for Russia?

    Experts said the expansion to the European market is one of the most logical steps for Saudi Arabia to take since oil-producing OPEC members are not trying to reduce the volume of production.

    “In order not to over-saturate the existing market of buyers, it is far easier to expand its boundaries,” said Yury Prokudin, an analyst with foreign exchange resource Fx Bazooka.

    Meanwhile, Iran’s imminent arrival on the world oil market adds further urgency to the situation for regional rival Riyadh, which may be attempting to consolidate its grip on markets ahead of Tehran’s entry.

    “As soon as sanctions against Tehran are lifted legally, Iranian oil will start to make its way to the European market. It may well be that this is exactly why Saudi Arabia has decided to strengthen its position in Europe now,” said Pasechnik.

    Prokudin said while the exact terms of supplies were not yet known, “one can deduce from the current situation on the market that a barrel of Saudi Arabian oil will cost European consumers $48-49, i.e. $4-5 cheaper than a barrel of Urals [crude],” adding that potentially Saudi Arabia could offer an additional discount of $0.5-1.

    Russia currently meets around 25 percent of Europe’s oil requirements. This year, supplies have grown by more than 5.5 percent, to 97.6 million tons. However, according to Prokudin’s estimates, Russia may lose up to a third of this in the coming year.

    Pasechnik believes that a rise in Saudi oil supplies is more of an alarm bell than a real threat for Russia.

    “For European refineries to switch to Saudi oil, investment is needed and a change of the existing logistics chains, which means additional costs. Even the lower price of this oil cannot offset the necessary investment,” Pasechnik said.

    What are the possible scenarios for Russia?

    If Russia starts to lose its share of the European oil market, the shortfall could theoretically be compensated by supplies to China, since, forecasts indicate that purchases there will rise by 3.2 percent a year.

    However, there is a risk that, in the long-term, Russia will face a shortage of investment in the oil sector and a reduction in oil production, which would threaten the guarantee of meeting Asian demand. This is one of the scenarios being considered by the Russian Energy Ministry.

    “Furthermore, so far our Asian partners are technically not ready to consume Russian oil in large quantities,” said Pasechnik. “So the European market is still very important for Russia.”

    “Furthermore, so far our Asian partners are technically not ready to consume Russian oil in large quantities,” said Pasechnik. “So the European market is still very important for Russia.”

  24. Davy on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 9:02 am 

    G-man, this is on my amazon wish list. Your options are better price but this one appears to have more abilities. This is what I came up with several months ago when I researched the topic. Any opinion on its abilities besides it is pricy?

    http://www.amazon.com/Yaesu-VX-6R-Modification-Submersible-Transceiver/dp/B00Q7AIPG8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1445608912&sr=1-2&keywords=Yaesu+Original+VX-6R+144%2F430+MHz+Dual-Band+Heavy+Duty+Submersible+Amateur+Transceiver+%28220+MHz+Capable+but+only+1.5+Watts%29

  25. makati1 on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 9:31 am 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw552g5hYVg

    A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 – by Isao Hashimoto

    “2053” – This is the number of nuclear explosions conducted in various parts of the globe.*

    Consider that that there are now some 17,000+ nukes in the world. What are the odds that they will not be used?

    http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2013/03/world/nuclear-weapon-states/

    1 in 100? 1 in 10? 1 in 2? Zero?

  26. ghung on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 9:47 am 

    Yaesu makes great stuff, but that’s a different animal; a 2 meter/ dual-band transceiver (no full range SW). The radios I posted are multi-band receivers for listening only. We also have various transceivers (2 meter, GMRS/FMRS). That’s my step-son’s area of expertise. I’m generally staying in ‘stealth mode’; listen but don’t reveal your location. That’s what modern submarines do; passive mode. That said, a good 2 meter radio with GMRS/FMRS is another good thing to have when main-stream communications go down. Lots of repeaters around the country. Not sure how many would survive EMPs, but hams are good at having backups.

    We keep ours in the gun safe, which is an effective Faraday enclosure; essentially a fire safe in a fire-proof room. I also installed a 4TB raid NAS (network attached storage drive) in there where all of our computer backups go, along with all of our digital photos, music collection (about 60GB of CD quality albums), and scanned copies of important papers. Had to put it somewhere. Why not in the gun/fire safe? The small amount of heat it produces also helps keep the humidity down in there.

    BTW: Legally you need to have a Amateur Radio license to transmit on GMRS and 2 meter, but who’ll care at that point?

  27. Davy on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 9:50 am 

    Thanks, G-man, that is the edvice I needed. I just bought the Tecsun. Once a month a make a prep purchase.

  28. BobInget on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 10:23 am 

    Our City Council voted Our Fair City a ‘Nuclear Free Zone’ ten years ago. we’ve been safe ever since. Get off your butts, close your computer, get local laws passed against WMD’s -;)

    Seriously folks, humanity’s fate is sealed.
    Since there’s no military solution to climate changes our leaders are frozen in the headlights.

    Legions of scientists are warning of disastrous
    permafrost feedback loop, rising sea levels, and
    massive storms (like one attacking Mexico, this moment).

    Example: The young student, wounded here in Oregon’s latest school shooting.
    She and her family deeply resented President Obama coming to Roseberg “to preach gun control”.

    US gun crime in 2015
    Figures up to 1 October
    294 Mass shootings
    45 shootings at schools
    9,956 people killed in gun incidents
    20,000 people injured in gun incidents
    Source: Shooting tracker, Gun Violence Archive
    AP

    For those ten thousand people killed by guns so far this year, I’ll bet fewer then 2% favored stricter gun laws.

    There are obvious solutions to climate changes & gun violence. Just as obviously, people won’t give up their guns or ICE powered SUV’s.

    We KNOW coal is killing ten thousand a year here in the US alone. Yet, half our electricity is generated burning the stuff.

    Power Plant Air Pollution Kills 13,000 People Per Year, Coal …
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/power-plant-air-polluti...

    Is there an obvious solution? You bet. Will we implement it quickly enough to save ten thousand premature deaths this year & next?

    When ciggies went to five bucks a pack, I thought
    good, that will stop, at least slow down smoking deaths. But, not so much.
    In Australia, smokers are paying……
    ” Pack of Cigarettes (Marlboro), 22.00 A$, 20.00-25.00.”

  29. Hello on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 10:25 am 

    Hihi. Oh my. Is it beer time yet?

  30. augjohnson on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 10:41 am 

    I’d really advise also having an HF amateur radio. 2 meter or GMRS/FMRS handhelds will have a limited range if you’re not able to use someone else’s repeater due to situation, power outage, whatever. Now that the only requirement for a Ham License is taking a simple written test, no morse code needed, it makes lots of sense to learn how to use HF (High-Frequency 2-30 MHz) equipment and have practiced using it before you need it. KG7BZ

  31. ghung on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 10:43 am 

    Davy; cool, let me know how it works. For shortwave, I built an improved version of this:
    http://www.hamuniverse.com/shortwaveantenna.html

    It runs northeast to southwest from my weather tower to a tree about 160 feet away. Did it just for fun, but immediately started getting broadcasts from places like Australia and Russia (shortwave antennas generally receive from the ends of the antenna; the directions the wires are pointing). I’m also getting strong signals from Cuba, Mexico, and the EU. Wish I spoke more languages. BBC no longer broadcasts on SW in North America, but I’m getting it from the UK now.

    Of course, some of this stuff is available online, but where’s the fun in that? Greer posits that old-style radio will be the most resilient communication form when industrial systems begin to fail; recommends old tube type equipment, but I haven’t gone there yet.

    I have visions (like in old movies) of the family huddling around the radio on a cold blustery night, hoping to get some info from far away after the big one. Situational awareness vs. not knowing. May sound silly, but I think it’s important, psychologically, to stay informed. If/when mass communications go down, the shock will be enormous.

    Another important band folks should have is the Weather service. FEMA will broadcast warnings and info there, for what it’s worth. Most of the handheld radios like you linked to have Weather service reception. I have the old S.A.M.E. radio from our local county EMS service – found it at the dump. Just needed to repair the power connection; works great, and was already programmed for our area.

  32. bug on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 11:15 am 

    What am I going to do when the bombs start falling?

    Hopefully I will be fishing at the time and go out they way I want.

  33. sidzepp on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 4:00 pm 

    Growing up in the sixties a nuclear war scenario was on everyone’s mind. The desire to build shelters rose to pandemic proportions and every week a new neighbor was erecting their little island of safety in a world of chaos and fear. One night at dinner I asked my dad when we were going to build our shelter and his rapid comment was “Never!” He said that if bombs started flying a small shelter in the basement was not going to be our salvation. It perplexed me for several years as images of a massive nuclear war dominated my dreams. Fortunately, we have not faced that prospect. It is great to talk about the ways to survive, more important it is necessary to find leaders who will work to prevent.

  34. Richard Ralph Roehl on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 4:11 pm 

    If nuclear weapons come… I shall hold the cat in my arms and give thanks for all the good things I was blessed to experience over the course of my life.

    I cannot change the world or anybody in the world. I can only change myself.

  35. ghung on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 4:13 pm 

    …and another Blast from the Past:

    THREE REACTIONS TO LIFE IN A FALLOUT SHELTER:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvnGmxp8LCg

    …then there’s the classic Twilight Zone; “The Shelter”:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734676/

    “A suburban dinner party is interrupted by a bulletin warning of an impending nuclear attack. As the neighbors scramble to prepare themselves, they turn against the one family that installed a permanent bomb shelter.

  36. penury on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 5:34 pm 

    I will just do what they taught me:When the bombs start to fall take your left ankle in your left hand, your right ankle in your right hand, put your head between your legs and kiss your sweet ass goodbye.

  37. onlooker on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 5:47 pm 

    In retrospect those bomb drills they used to have seem preposterous indeed just as penury paints it. But maybe those people in the 50’s or so really did believe it would work, so what matters is their perception which supposedly comforted them.

  38. yukonfisher on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 10:46 pm 

    EMPs will put paid to all forms of electronic communication. I find that when the silence at night gets too much that there is a certain music in the static on the radio.

  39. makati1 on Fri, 23rd Oct 2015 11:57 pm 

    yukon, they didn’t think about EMPs from the nukes did they. all kinds of comments on what to buy, not thinking about the effects of nukes on electronics everywhere.

    Hiroshima didn’t have electronics. Just people. More died from radiation in the decade after the bombs than died in the instant it happened. The ‘survivors’ died in pain and suffering. The others were vaporized instantly. I chose vaporization to a lingering death from cancers.

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