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The story of the fisherman and of the farmer

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As I sit on the podium with the other speakers, I have in front of me about 30 boys and girls, around 10-12 years old; not even teenagers. They sit while the other speakers tell them of climate change and renewable energies. They are being told what we believe is good for them: that we are in danger, we need to act, we need to recycle our waste, save energy, and reduce emissions. But, at the same time, I can’t avoid thinking that, out there, outside the cozy world of the school and of their teachers, there is a different reality. A world where the only tree that has a value is a tree that has been cut down and sold. A world where the measure of success is how much a person can consume. A world where the fragile thing we call “the environment” is always the least important concern. 

Are we doing to these children a favor by telling them what we are telling them? I cannot say, I can only see that they are good boys and good girls and that they are doing their best to listen to the speakers. They seem to understand that what they are being told is important for their future. And some of them seem to understand that it is not obvious that they will have a future. 

As my turn to speak approaches, I try to think. What can I tell to a group of tired (and also a little scared) children? An idea appears in my mind all of a sudden. In ten minutes or so, I scratch a script on a few sheets of paper and when my turn comes I call for volunteers to play the script in front of the other children. They like the idea and they immediately understand how to play the respective roles, they are happy and excited to do something different than just listening. Here is the script I wrote, as I remember it.

THE FISHERMAN’S FAMILY.

Dad, dad…. We are hungry, we are hungry! We were waiting for you to come back, we were waiting for you to bring fish for us. Did you have a good catch, dad? Tell us!

Children, children, I am sorry, the catch was small. The net that I spread in the sea didn’t catch so many fish. Children, I am sorry, but this is all that I can bring to you today.

Dad, is it so little? But we are hungry. We are hungry, dad, why can’t you bring more fish for us from the sea?

Children, children, I threw my net in the sea many times, but there is not so much fish anymore in the sea because there are many fishermen and all of them have hungry children. And all of them try to catch as much fish as they can. And if we fish too much, there is not much fish left in the sea. But everyone does the same and if I don’t do that, too, the fish that’s left will be caught by the other fishermen. So, children, this is the catch that I brought today, and I know that it is not enough. But that is what I could do today and I cannot tell you that I will do better tomorrow. And that’s the way of the fisherman.

THE FARMER’S FAMILY

Dad, dad…. Mom gave us some bread, but it was not so much and we are still hungry. And we saw that there is still grain stored in the house. Why can’t we have that grain milled and use the flour to make some good bread for us, dad?

Children, children, I know that you are hungry and I know that there is still grain in the house. But, children, we cannot eat that grain. Your mom is giving you as much bread as she can, and I know that it is little. But you must go on with what mom can give you and ask no more.

But, dad, why can’t we eat that grain that’s kept stored in the house? Tell us, dad, because we don’t understand this.

We can’t eat that grain, children, because it the seed for the next harvest. Soon, we’ll go sowing in the fields and we’ll sow that grain as seed. And the seed that we sow will germinate and produce more grain, and that grain we will harvest and we will have bread for next year. And we’ll keep some of the grain we harvest for the year that will follow and we’ll keep doing that for the years that will come as our father and grandfathers did, and as you will do yourselves and for your children and their children. And that’s the way of the farme

And there we are. The children who played as actors have recited their part, and they look happy and excited. Those who sat in the audience listened intently and they seemed to enjoy the performance. But did they understand what I was trying to tell them? I ask, “why can’t the fisherman feed his family every day?” One of the children says, “because he fishes too much, and then there is no fish left in the sea.” I ask her, “but why that doesn’t happen to the farmer?” She answers: “because the farmer keeps some seed for the next harvest!” They never heard of the “tragedy of the commons” nor of the problem of fishery overexploitation, but they seem to have understood these concepts. 

So, I ask them, “but, today, are we behaving like farmers or like fishermen?” They are a little perplexed. I explain: “are we keeping some seed for the future or are we consuming everything we have?” They look at me, they understand what I said. One of them says: “like fishermen”. And I tell him, “You are right, but let me explain: it doesn’t matter if we are farmers or fishermen, but we must not take too much of what the land or the sea can provide so that the land or the sea have the time to re-create what we took away. Whether we are a farmers or fishermen, if we respect the land, or we respect the sea, our children will never go hungry. And if we all respect the earth, then everyone will be happy, and the earth, too!” They all nod; they seem to have understood the idea.

The workshop is over; the children move away, texting on their smartphones and chatting among themselves. Will they remember what I told them? And if they will, would that be useful to them?  I can’t say. As I look at them leaving, there comes to my mind that they will be less than 50 years old in 2050, when the world will either have cut fossil fuel use by 80% or so or will face the dire consequences of not having done that. What kind of world will they see? (if they will be able to see it). I can only wish them good luck. 

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43 Comments on "The story of the fisherman and of the farmer"

  1. sunweb on Tue, 26th Apr 2016 8:31 pm 

    The farmer’s yield was not enough or she had to sell off enough for payments that it was a choice between seed and eat. Another example coming down the pike with water and top soil problems.

  2. Apneaman on Tue, 26th Apr 2016 8:36 pm 

    Why not tell them about

    THE CANNIBAL’S FAMILY?

    But Daddy why do we have to kill the Johnston’s? The’re the best neighbours we ever had and Billy is my friend.

    See kids it’s like this, they have to die today, so we can die next week.

  3. makati1 on Tue, 26th Apr 2016 8:41 pm 

    sunweb, I agree. I think we have passed the “saving seed” times into the “eat the seed, or starve” days of our end.

  4. Plantagenet on Tue, 26th Apr 2016 10:46 pm 

    The state Dept of Fisheries is predicting a record year for King Salmon up here in Alaska.

    http://www.newsminer.com/news/alaska_news/alaska-officials-expect-more-king-salmon-in/article_2928efae-0b09-11e6-8b54-3f120fdf1a2c.html

    Jeez —I had a wonderful salmon dinner tonight and I’ve got some salmon in the freezer left over from the 40 I caught last year. Maybe I could give a couple to that poor fisherman who can’t catch anything so he can feed his kids?

    Cheers!

  5. Anonymous on Tue, 26th Apr 2016 11:17 pm 

    Does thing mean you are going to start squawking endlessly about how the ‘world’ is in a King Salmon glut now?

    It would be a real change from what you usually spew…

  6. GregT on Tue, 26th Apr 2016 11:29 pm 

    They’re actually Chinook Salmon Planter. Why you girls way up there in the former Soviet Union refer to them as king salmon is quite strange. Maybe it would be more appropriate for you all to refer to them as Tsar salmon.

  7. makati1 on Tue, 26th Apr 2016 11:51 pm 

    GregT, it is a bit of the Alaskan arrogance, second only to Texas arrogance, nothing more. Wait until the US sells it back to Russia. LOL Or they take it back, although, with it’s depleting oil and it’s overabundance of dumbed down Americans, I don’t know why they would want it.

  8. GregT on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 12:24 am 

    If current trends continue mak, in a few years time the only things Alaska will be good for is survival training, or a penal colony.

    Maybe Washington could work out a deal? Russia still has lots of oil to export.

  9. Davy on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 6:03 am 

    How about our semi-nomadic hunter gather family. The father and mother with a few other father and mothers venture out into a destroyed ecosystem to scavenge and salvage what they can. Children will learn the basics like survival. Learning who the founding fathers were is of no use in this world after a few years. The constitution, bill of rights and habeas corpus are jokes and unneeded fluff.

    A few generations down the road there will be little recognition of what once was for our mythical family. Cities will be overgrown. The plastic on the beaches will be gone except for cuts the ocean makes where that deposition shows from our time period. There could be some civilization hang on somewhere like the Byzantium’s did or as the Mayans that drifted back into the jungle and kept their traditions but very little and for how long. We may also go extinct and new life come about. Time is a special force in nature. Humans cannot comprehend millions of years of evolution but that is normal for nature.

    I personally think the intelligence of the dolphin and whale far superior to us. I say this in the respect that if unmolested by humans they would likely have continued far longer than us. In that respect of longevity which life strives for they are more advanced. We are nature’s extinction creatures we destroy so new life can be reborn. I am trying to put a happy face on how horrible we are as a species. Surely nature has a reason for something like us.

  10. Davy on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 6:08 am 

    “Maybe Washington could work out a deal? Russia still has lots of oil to export.”
    Yea, just like Vancouver is working out a deal with China turning over the city for Chinese lebensraum. I wonder when the Chinese will rename the place. How long until they populate all of BC? The dumbasses up there are selling out their wonderful land for worthless fiat currency. What a shame.

  11. Anonymous on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 6:54 am 

    I want to hear more about the world-wide King Salmon glut….

  12. Revi on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 8:30 am 

    The story doesn’t include the banker who owns the mortgage on the farm, or the payments he has to make on his equipment.

  13. makati1 on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 8:43 am 

    LOL. Revi, you understand.

  14. Boat on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 12:55 pm 

    The moral to the story is think outside the box. Buy an engine for your boat. Travel a long distance to another fishing area. Use dynamite to exponentially increase the catch. Sell most of the fish to the village who now is short on fish. Now your children have food and money.

  15. Apneaman on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 1:50 pm 

    Davy, I have not noticed any greater percentage of Chinese in the lower mainland than before and I’ve been here since 1976. I do know that they were in the city, province and country building the infrastructure and economy for 220 years, which is about 100 longer than my family and many other whiteys, That pisses you and douchy off eh? They built the railroad here too. Did all the toughest jobs and far and away had more deaths than whitey and got zero credit at the time. Well they did starting in the 1970’s, so unacknowledged for about a century. But why am I telling you. You are after all an expert on Canada, BC with a masters in Vancouver history. How long have your studies been going on for? Years? Years of hitting the books eh? Or maybe everything you know about it you learned from a handful of the libertarian fanboys over at Zero hedge? It’s the only site you ever link to so you must hold them and their 5th grade reading level articles in high esteem. Often they can explain any number of highly complex issues in just “one chart” with “no comment”. Even quicker is their explanations of a many faceted and complex problem with nothing but a series of six cartoon pictures side by each – explains it all. Next week they are introducing an audio feature so they can explain the world to the average america with a series of short grunting and snorting noises. Gotta keep up with the new American education standards. I haven’t been paying all that much attention to the Chinese buying spree. There was already a long running real estate bubble up here that has been overdue for some time and it’s not the biggest issue on my radar. Funny how you seem so obsessed with it given how little effect it will have on you and yours. As you have frequently pointed out, Canada is insignificant. We could collapse tomorrow and it would not be enough to bring down the US – lose a big portion of a convenient and steady resource supplier. Maybe have to find different sources, lose some jobs and such. On the other hand, what happens in the US does have an effect on the world and if/when it collapses it will have major reverberations for Canada. Yes it do seem strange how obsessed and hyperbolic you are about it since there are so many serious issues in your own back yard that are inescapable and existential threats to your wife and kids. BTW, exactly how many Chinese have moved here as the advanced scouting team for this lebensraum? You must have the numbers memorized given your expertise. No? I guess I’ll have to check with zerohedge – see if they can explain everything to me in six cartoons and one graph.

  16. Davy on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 3:41 pm 

    Spanky, calm down, you are so pissed because Vancouver is turning in to a shithole from money laundering. You dumbasses in BC try to whine and complain about the poor 3rd world Chinese farmer when you are steeling their money.

    You are a chump who thinks he is a rock star so you spank who you want and trash whatever. I love a few months back when you made the comment that this site better not run you off or readership will drop….lmfao. You need to go on bipolar meds because you definitely have grandiosity issues and pressured speech.

  17. Apneaman on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 5:33 pm 

    Missouri cock biter, Vancouver has a long way to go to be considered a shit hole. Don’t you know how to use goggle or is your computer only connected to zerohedge? Vancouver has been rated as one of the top cities to live in in the world for decades and it’s still near the top of making every ratings list. You don’t have a clue about this country. As disappointed and angry as I am about the path they took, I can god damn guarantee you that tens of millions of Americans would love nothing more than to have the same benefits and privileges citizenship affords everyone here regardless of income or status. It’s called sharing in the wealth of natural resource and showing some basic decency towards each other. For example, my buddy is a small business man and has been suffering greatly both financially and physically. Hiatal hernia -knocked him out of commission – very painful. So he went for the operation. You know what that involves? Showing up at the hospital and presenting your provincial care card and signing a piece of paper. When it’s done you go home. No out of pocket expenses. No medical bankruptcies for citizens. It’s considered a basic human right here. It’s not a right because rights don’t exists, but it is a ideal and privilege. A social contract made up before I was born along with a bunch of other good things for average folks. Anyone want to weigh in how that’s a bad thing? How many Americans are medically bankrupted everyday because they don’t have enough insurance or none at all? Shall I provide a link?

    Same as the cities ranking, the country itself is always near the top of the list of countries to live in. Sure Canada is regressing and will go down like all the rest, but I would much rather collapse here than in your country. You’re predators and savages. What you have been doing to many countries for over a hundred years you are now doing to each other Why wouldn’t you. It’s in the cultural DNA. Expansionists from day one. No where left to go and all the low hanging fruit is gone so y’all turned on each other. I pity my ex wife in Atlanta.

    “America is a petri dish of psychopathology”

    -Sheldon Solomon American professor of psychology.

    I just shake my head sometimes and am reminded of some words by an American from when there used to be some integrity in your country.

    “You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”

    – Joseph N. Welch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqQD4dzVkwk

  18. Apneaman on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 5:56 pm 

    Vancouver fifth-best place to live in the world: Mercer study (with video)

    http://www.vancouversun.com/vancouver+fifth+best+place+live+world+mercer+study+with+video/10896594/story.html

    Canada ranked as the 2nd best country in the world

    http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2016/01/canada-2nd-best-country-in-the-world/

  19. Apneaman on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 6:14 pm 

    Missouri cock biter, how’s that big city down the road doing? I’d much rather be in this “shit hole” when the SHTF, then where you are. Should be fun when half of the East St Louis ghetto shows up at the farm. Tyrone and Latrell gonna make you their bitch. Use you like a rental car. Or maybe some inbred Missouri red necks will show up – you sure got a pretty mouth. Have fun!

    St. Louis usurps Detroit to become most violent city in the US: Gateway City is worst for rape, robbery aggravated assault and murder according to FBI data

    St. Louis, Missouri ranked first with 88.1 violent crimes per 10k residents

    FBI released crime rates in cities with more than 100,000 people
    Cities in Delaware, Maine, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming were not included because city populations were too low

    Criminology professor said St. Louis is unlikely to be influenced by the police shooting of Michael Brown, since homicides were already increasing

    Violent crimes include rape, robbery, aggravated assault, and murder

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437350/St-Louis-takes-number-one-spot-FBI-s-violent-cities-state.html

    St. Louis Is the Worst City in the U.S. for Young Families, Study Says

    http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2016/02/23/st-louis-is-the-worst-city-in-the-us-for-young-families-study-says

    St. Louis Named No. 19 Most Dangerous City in the World

    http://www.stlmag.com/news/st-louis-named-no-19-most-dangerous-city-in-the-world/

  20. Practicalmaina on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 6:29 pm 

    Happens to be the home of Monsanto, Peabody and some heavy handed cops. Improve those 3 establishments influence on the country and it would probably vastly improve.

  21. GregT on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 7:19 pm 

    The Boat non-sensical quote of the day:

    “The moral to the story is think outside the box. Buy an engine for your boat. Travel a long distance to another fishing area. Use dynamite to exponentially increase the catch. Sell most of the fish to the village who now is short on fish. Now your children have food and money.”

    What a fucking retard.

  22. makati1 on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 7:21 pm 

    According to the FBI, the Us has about 33,000 gangs with over 3 million members and growing, all experienced in murder and mayhem. The rural areas will only be safe until the resources of the cities and burbs are gone.

  23. makati1 on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 7:22 pm 

    GregT, Boat is a nut case, best ignored. A sign should be put up on the site to not feed the idiots. It only encourages them to write more stupid comments.

  24. GregT on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 7:29 pm 

    “The dumbasses up there are selling out their wonderful land for worthless fiat currency. What a shame.”

    Actually, the dumbasses up there are exporting their natural resources to the US for worthless fiat currency. They should sell them to the Chinese, instead of just giving them away.

  25. Davy on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 7:33 pm 

    Ape Hole, who ever said St Louis is great. I never did and I don’t live there. The difference is you dumbass Vancouver Canadians think you are so special but your city is turning into a money laundering cesspool. The place is full of uptight asshole people that think they are special but the “ain’t”

    But back to the point and that is you Ape Hole. Just try to be a normal guy. You are not special. You are an internet brat with bad manners. You have little to show for your suck ass life. Mom is the only thing you got. Probably a nice lady to. You on the other hand are a chain smoking ice cream eating asshole. I can imagine how disgusting your appearance must be. Be that as it is you can still be an ok kind of guy by just being normal and laying off the rock star status. Quit living by double standards and that hypocritical “Its not my faults it is them” attitude.

    You dumbass Canadians are complicit in all the crimes of America. You Canadians are accomplices to the rape and pillage. Your prosperity has been a dog and pony show with you Canadians being the dog with the easy ride on our backs. Around 30% of you Canadian dumbasses are extremist that would like to see the US wiped off the map. I think Canada is our real danger. They are going to stab us in the back when we think they are our friends. I know I am telling everyone I can the real story.

  26. GregT on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 8:06 pm 

    Yes Davy, the Canadian PTB have been complicit in the crimes of America, and to the ongoing American MIC rape and pillage. Their prosperity has been the result of an easy ride on your backs. However, the vast majority of Canadians voted to throw the scumbags out. In so far as your delusions that 12 million Canadians would like to see the US wiped off the map, book an appointment with your shrink ASAP, before you hurt yourself, or somebody else.

    You need help buddy. In a big way.

  27. Davy on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 8:10 pm 

    I love when I read pure denial from two faced trolls.

  28. GregT on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 8:53 pm 

    Kind of a love/hate thing it would appear. You need help Davy. You aren’t going to find it here. People have given up on you.

  29. Boat on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 9:23 pm 

    gregt your the poster child for jerk. You post little information and act like a spoiled child. Try reading and learning and think longer before you post.

  30. Davy on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 9:38 pm 

    Poor Gregger, he doesn’t like the medicine he gives out. Greggor, if I wasn’t hitting the mark you wouldn’t be so concerned about explaining these things away. You can’t kick people in the teeth then bitch when you get it in return.

  31. Apneaman on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 9:47 pm 

    “Around 30% of you Canadian dumbasses are extremist that would like to see the US wiped off the map.”

    ROLFLMAO – is that from another zerohedge chart?

    I’ll grant that there is a significant dose of anti Americanism, but it’s mostly of the,”WTF is wrong with you people” variety.

    I’m not aware of any of the covert assignation and sabotage squads being deployed yet or any cross border shelling, but it’s still early and we could launch an attack at any time. Hopefully Trump will win and get that Northern border wall will get built before we launch our invasion. Stay frosty Yankees.

    If America has ever had a better friend and ally than Canada, I’d like to see the case made for that.

    9/11 – Americas darkest hour.

    9/11: Operation Yellow Ribbon (Gander, Newfoundland)

    Aired during the Vancouver 2010 Olympics, Operation Yellow Ribbon details the events after the closure of US and Canadian airspace during the September 11th, 2001 attacks. For the first time, North American airspace had been closed, and the small town of Gander, Newfoundland, a town of 10,000 people and 500 hotel rooms, was tasked with landing, housing, and providing for 6,600 stranded passengers and 473 crew members.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXbxoy4Mges

    Flashback 9-11: Hands across the border

    “In the wake of the terrible Sept. 11 tragedy in the United States, the Canadian fire service has reacted in hundreds of different ways. The most common reaction has been to raise funds for the families of the 343 New York City firefighters and paramedics who lost their lives in the collapse of the World Center towers.”

    “But everyone wanted to help in some way, and the most obvious was to raise funds for the families of the fallen. The fire service hit the streets and businesses in their communities and was rewarded with an outpouring of financial support from the citizenry; from young children emptying their piggy banks to seniors on fixed incomes, many gave more than they could afford. No one was untouched by the tragic events and all did what they could for the 9-11 fund for the families of emergency personnel lost on Sept. 11. ”

    “Across the country, stories pour in regarding the fire service’s reaction to Sept. 11. In Vancouver, more than 500 off-duty firefighters of IAFF Local 18 hit the streets in uniform for a 12-hour blitz to collect donations from citizens and businesses. Fire Chief Ray Holdgate suspended training drills for the day and provided his firefighters with the use of fire department vehicles to transport firefighters around the city and pick up donations. More than $600,000 was raised for the 9-11 fund.”

    http://www.firefightingincanada.com/emergency-disaster-management/flashback-9-11-hands-across-the-border-9617

    My mom is a nice lady, I remember her and my aunt bawling their eyes out days after while watching one of the many stories of personal tragedy.

  32. GregT on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 10:15 pm 

    @Boat,

    Should be, “GregT, you’re the poster child for jerk.”

    Not, “gregt your the poster child for jerk.”

    Learn how to spell, dumbass.

  33. GregT on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 10:23 pm 

    “You can’t kick people in the teeth then bitch when you get it in return.”

    You’re beginning to sound as messed up as your buddy Kevin is Davy. Maybe even worse. At least Boat has an excuse (sheer stupidity), you do not.

  34. Boat on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 10:31 pm 

    575 billion in trade, 2015.

  35. makati1 on Wed, 27th Apr 2016 10:55 pm 

    GregT, English is not one of Boat’s strengths. But then, it is the best of what he has.

  36. Davy on Thu, 28th Apr 2016 6:08 am 

    Wow, now Ape Hole wants to be apologetic about Canada and of course a braggart on how Canada is so good to the US. Greger just does the usual sidestep and act like he is a psychoanalyst. Dumbass Greggor and Ape Hole, you Canadians on this boards are ambassadors of your country. Your actions reflect on your countries narrative, ideology, and disposition. There is several of you here that routinely, methodically, and in extreme tear apart the US. You take offense to anyone calling you out for this. You call anyone who calls you out on it a flag waiver, indoctrinated, and psychologically losing it.

    My definition of an anti-mericant is you guys but especially anonymous from Toronto and Liberal dumbass from Montreal. Liberal dumbass from Motreal advocates shooting Americans. Apehole is more than happy with bad news that means Americans are being killed. Greggor likes to hear it but he is one of those closet haters.

    I come on here and say my country makes me sick. I offer multiple examples of problems with corruption and global maleficence by the US neocon cabal but that is not enough. That is not enough for you guys because you internet brats think you are the experts.

    No, Canada is not a friend of the US because you Canadians are two faced backstabbers. I have respect for Russia. We know their position and I admire that out of them. Two faced backstabbers are cowards and intellectual weaklings. If you Canadians really hate the US break off relations. Quit Nafta and restrict cultural and business dealings. Don’t just talk do something about it.

    There are many good Canadian yes. There are many good Americans that you F-wacks step on daily with your generalizations and your cherry picking internet brat shit. Ape Hole is the worst for this. It is a constant and redundant spew of bad. Gregor is a hypocrite who says he likes Americans then joins in with the gang bang of hate and resentment. I especially find the Greggor psychologically troubled with his broken record attacks on boat. Boat rarely attacks you or Canada but you constantly harass him.

    What you dumbass Canadians from Vancouver do is harass and spank like bullies on a playground. You do it with constant bad language, extreme positions, and lack of balance. If you showed some respect for others here with moderation and balance I would let your anti-mericant message alone. Show some respect for others here on the board. You tell an asshole like ape hole that and he is all over you with a harder slap in the face. You tell the greggor it and he calls you an indoctrinated flag waiver.

    I criticize my country more than anyone I know but that is not enough. You guys have your sheeple following that find it cool to be anti-mericant. They are unhappy people looking for someone to blame for their unhappy lives. My issue is not anti-Americanism per say. It is important because the US is such a large problem in the world today. The issue is the extreme position the anti-mericants have. The extreme positions of hate for anything and everything American. The over generalizations and the internet brat cherry picking redundant references. They blame complain about America then they talk up their heroes which in the past were the Brics. Well we know how that message ended.

    I once loved Canada as my favorite country. Now I despise the place and it is because of Canada’s ambassadors on this board. Not one Canadian on this board has anything at all ever good to say about the US EVER. Not one ever asks the others to moderate. You guys represent a significant majority of the Canadian opinion among the intellectuals. In that respect you are a statistical representation of your country.

    You guys are not that smart and you are a small insignificant nation. Your prosperity was because of your huge trading position with the US. Your security is because of the US. Your lives are married to the US. Maybe that is what you hate about us and that is you are just another US statelet in fact with people like you that dream of being superpowers. If the hoped for US crash comes I hope you receive the worst of the effects. I hope Canada is overrun by the people you hate.

  37. Davy on Thu, 28th Apr 2016 6:31 am 

    “Michael Lynch, a long term consultant to the oil industry”
    That says enough right there. They should have included directly or indirectly paid PR guy. These lobbyist guys are paid to preach. They are paid to push and agenda and in that respect they are nothing more than extremist that do not seek the truth. They are not interested in balance because that waters down the message and when you have a message as dire as peak oil it must be debunked.

    American mainstream media and academics are corrupted to the core by the evil nexus of corporate political control that is based on power and wealth transfer. This is a system in a circular vortex of increasing corruption. This system of government is self-perpetuating by the revolving door of the corporate, the political, and the administrative. The founding father set up a government that had division of power and duties for a reason. This new system has sidestepped this though a slow process of moral hazard and disregard for the rule of law. The rule of law issue is the thousands of prick that is killing the legal and administrative system. It is the attitude that the ends justify the means and that attitude has taken over by a position that our security depends on it.

    We now have complete corruption and a deadly combination of control by political, corporate and military complex. The reason Trump is appealing to the masses is people don’t know what exactly is wrong but they know the system is broke. Is all lost? Maybe other than the status quo is flying apart so in crisis there is change. When these groups and this system is put to the test in crisis they will have choices. Suppress the people to maintain the status quo around their gated castle of power and parasitic wealth transfer or take the necessary steps to protect the people. We will find that answer soon because the brick wall is just ahead.

  38. JuanP on Thu, 28th Apr 2016 1:31 pm 

    Davy, You are clinically insane, and the more you write the more obvious it becomes to the rest of us. You are typical exceptionalist American bully scum.

  39. JuanP on Thu, 28th Apr 2016 1:35 pm 

    By the way, I have never in my life met a non USA citizen who didn’t think Canadians are better people than Americans and Canada a better country than the USA. The whole world agrees that Canada is a better country and Canadians better people. Only a clinically insane exceptionalist American living in denial could think otherwise.

  40. peakyeast on Thu, 28th Apr 2016 1:54 pm 

    USA thinks it can perpertually live on past glory – that past glory being the extreme oil resources and other natural wealth stolen from the rightful owners of the land. – Still today that isnt recognized and no amendments has been made.

    Some day when the power vanes enough the only thing america will be remembered for is their genocidal and murderous tendencies powered by stolen wealth and squandered away on mindboggling egocentric hedonism.

    And no – that is not anti american – and I am not anti-american. But I am for honesty and will support the weak against the evil tyranny.

  41. Boat on Thu, 28th Apr 2016 2:05 pm 

    I’ve been working construction since I retired from plastics, mainly remodel jobs. I have yet to meet a rude customer. I just don’t see all these bad Americans. Lol I also know Canadian lady I met online. She is extremely funny and as sweet as they come. We have very different political and world views.
    Hating any country or group does not advance any agenda. So whats the point.

  42. Davy on Thu, 28th Apr 2016 2:50 pm 

    It all goes back to the dumbass Europeans and their unforgivable legacies of exploitation driven by every bad ism ever invented by man. If the white European would never have developed the world would have been far better. No I am not anti-European. My wife is Italian and my daughter Spanish. I am of Prussian by blood 4 generations back. To kill a weed you kill the roots.

  43. peakyeast on Thu, 28th Apr 2016 3:41 pm 

    I agree Davy: The exploration of the “new world” was one of the most evil things ever done.

    And every single one of those leaders deserve to die a 1000 deaths. Alas they are already dead – while only the living has the means to make amends.

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