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The art confronting a global crisis with reality and hope

EXIT puts the displacement of peoples, and Australia’s own refugee policies, into a daunting global context. But the installation’s ‘thunderous’ data on loss and climate is empowering.

In a darkened room surrounded by a high-tech 360-degree projection, your ears filled with a whirring and staccato ticking that almost drowns out a competing cacophony of human voices, you sit as the earth circles into view.

The planet fills the screen, imprinting the outline of continents as it passes, leaving in its wake a moving fusion of data, graphics and sound showing the vast and perpetual movement of people around the globe. At each passing of the relentlessly circling Earth, new data and graphics are imprinted – population data; conflict zones; refugee numbers; the flows of money from migrants to the rich world back to their families in the poorer world; deforestation rates; and forecast temperature and sea level rises. Cities at risk of inundation float on the screen below a forecast sea level rise of up to 1 metre by 2100. Sitting in the dark the problems are suddenly very real.

This is EXIT, an artwork that is the centrepiece of Melbourne’s ART+CLIMATE=CHANGE festival that brings home the huge and increasing scale of population movements across the world, confronting us with the stark realities of what is a political, economic and environmental crisis. Like all the pieces in this festival, it is art that in different ways seeks to confront the crisis and push for action.

EXIT, on display at the Ian Potter Museum of Art, University of Melbourne. Courtesy of Diller Scofidio + Renfro, Mark Hansen, Laura Kurgan and Ben RubinIn in collaboration with Robert Gerard Pietrusko and Stewart Smith, and the Cartier Foundation. Multimedia: Sarah Fisher

Refugees world wide number 19.5 million and there are over 38 million internally displaced people – the highest level of population disruption since Word War II – EXIT

“It is a wake up call,” says Erika Feller, a former Assistant High Commissioner (Protection) at the United Nations refugee agency, the UNHCR, and now a Vice Chancellor’s Fellow at the University of Melbourne.

Speaking at recent public lecture on EXIT hosted by the University of Melbourne’s School of Geography and The Ian Potter Museum of Art where the work is on display, Ms Feller says it’s an important reminder that the challenge of addressing forced displacement and refugees can only be solved by global cooperation and shared responsibility.

“With nativism and identity politics on the rise in many countries, accompanied by unprecedented national security measures, increasing normalisation of hate speech, and a retreat from global norms of international responsibility sharing, the messages of EXIT are very timely,” says Ms Feller.

And she criticises Australia’s own policy of deterrence on the refugees, pointing out that EXIT highlights how Australia’s refugee challenge is dwarfed by the larger global challenge.

One of the most powerful images in EXIT is the flow of refugees around the world. This vast movement of people is represented as streams of green pixels flowing out from often conflict-ridden countries already full of red pixels representing the numbers of internally displaced people within those countries. It evokes a sense of biology. It is as if the world were one body in which fluids are constantly moving between organs. It is visceral in its power. But the flow of green into Australia is barely a trickle.

“Australia has taken a very tough stand in recent years based around deterrence in the form of remote and sparsely provisioned holding centres, children in detention, delayed processing of asylum applications and so on. This has very long-term negative consequences for the individuals affected, but it also doesn’t solve the problem or make a contribution to the broader solution in a responsibility sharing context.”

“It doesn’t solve the push factors that are the reason why people leave in the first place, it just deflect the flows somewhere else, and the deaths at sea will continue, but just on someone else’s watch,” says Ms Feller.

EXIT at the Ian Potter Museum of Art – University of Melbourne at part of the 2017 ART+CLIMATE=CHANGE festival. Picture: Diller Scofidio + Renfro, Mark Hansen, Laura Kurgan and Ben RubinIn in collaboration with Robert Gerard Pietrusko and Stewart Smith

“What EXIT does is very seriously put into contention the adequacy of a political system built around autonomy and built around sovereignty in a world that is being radically impacted today by global patterns of migration, forced displacement and environmental disasters,” says Ms Feller.

EXIT highlights the growing importance of cities as our population rises. For the first time in history more people now live in cities than in rural areas, and the EXIT exhibition describes cities as “key battlegrounds” in the fight against climate change. Cities now account for about 70 per cent of global greenhouse gas emissions.

How the world deals with the social and environmental issues confronting our fast urbanising population will be central to the upcoming ECOCITY 2017 world summit in Melbourne 12-14 July, at which former US Vice President and climate action campaigner Al Gore will be speaking.

EXIT was inspired by the ideas of French philosopher and urbanist Paul Virilio and commissioned by the Cartier Foundation. Created by designers Diller Scofidio + Renfro, with Laura Kurgan, Mark Hansen and Ben Rubin, and in collaboration with Robert Gerard Pietrusko and Stewart Smith, EXIT was first displayed at the 2008 Copenhagen climate change negotiations. It was updated and displayed at the later 2015 Paris talks. It has only been shown in a few public forums around the world and is on display at The Potter Gallery until 16 July.

Taking EXIT on tour is a complex undertaking, requiring sophisticated computing and projection technology. But when CLIMARTE CEO Guy Abrahams first saw EXIT in Paris during the climate change talks he immediately knew it was something he wanted to bring to Australia.

“It was inspiring. It clearly embodied that notion that we are all in this together and that this is a multifaceted global issue,” he says.

ART+CLIMATE=CHANGE 2017 is a series of events that can help lead us towards a creative, just and sustainable future

As an experience, watching EXIT can be overwhelming. At the public lecture, School of Geography climate politics and policy expert Associated Professor Peter Christoff described EXIT as a “thundering juggernaut” of data. But the sheer scale of the problems EXIT presents raises the question of whether EXIT can be paralysing for the viewer. The same issue is at the heart of efforts to galvanise public action to address climate change and take action to reduce emissions.

But Mr Abrahams said the message of EXIT is one of hope because it puts human action at the centre of what is happening. And that means we can act to change things.

“EXIT confronts us with some disturbing truths about the world, but because we can see that these are things in motion, that all of these things have a cause and effect, and that the human influence on very many of them is very great, that should give us room to hope because if we change what we are doing it means it can affect all these other things.”

“The antidote to despair and paralysis is action and a determination to do something.”

You can register to attend ECOCITY 2017 here.

Banner Image: EXIT at the Ian Potter Museum of Art – University of Melbourne. Multimedia: Diller Scofidio + Renfro, Mark Hansen, Laura Kurgan and Ben Rubin. In collaboration with Robert Gerard Pietrusko and Stewart Smith, and the Cartier Foundation. Filmed by Sarah Fisher

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41 Comments on "The art confronting a global crisis with reality and hope"

  1. onlooker on Sun, 30th Apr 2017 2:13 pm 

    A window into conditions and into the future that define human overshoot of its planetary environment. Or if you wish a metaphor, a game of musical chairs in which they’re are not enough chairs for everyone

  2. J-Gav on Sun, 30th Apr 2017 4:58 pm 

    Yes, Onlooker, and some of the chairs are missing a leg or two.

  3. John on Sun, 30th Apr 2017 7:16 pm 

    Thanks for sharing

  4. Apneaman on Sun, 30th Apr 2017 8:52 pm 

    Reign of Idiots

    “The idiots take over in the final days of crumbling civilizations.”

    “There is a familiar checklist for extinction. We are ticking off every item on it.”

    “They see the state as a projection of their vanity. The Roman, Mayan, French, Habsburg, Ottoman, Romanov, Wilhelmine, Pahlavi and Soviet dynasties crumbled because the whims and obsessions of ruling idiots were law. ”

    “Donald Trump is the face of our collective idiocy.”

    “It is inevitable that for the final show we vomited a grotesque figure like Trump.”

    more

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/reign_of_idiots_20170430

  5. Cloggie on Sun, 30th Apr 2017 11:33 pm 

    Marine le Pen in a surprise move, one week before the 2nd round of the presidential election, makes a U-turn and embraces the euro and the EU.

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/marine-le-pen-kehrtwende-in-sachen-euro-ausstieg-a-1145548.html

    Marine has understood (a little late) that she couldn’t win with opting for chaos in Europe. Most French see France as a leading country in Europe and 70% support the euro and don’t want a Frexit.

    Until now the polls say it is 60-40 for Macron, a shabby globalist who claims that French culture does not exist.

    It is perhaps too late for a victory, but Marine le Pen is still relatively young and with this new attitude is guaranteed to win in five years time, when the German right will have matured, the EU has an army of its own and we can organize a European emancipation from the US empire, team up with Russia and begin to liberate European America from the Soros empire, the coffin of the white race.

    The break with the US empire should be initiated with a hostile as possible break with Britain, including blockades and a if necessary violent Spanish recapture of Gibraltar.

    #HandsOffEuropeanAmerica

  6. Boat on Sun, 30th Apr 2017 11:59 pm 

    So instead of Jew hating why not focus on the demographics that contribute the most to population, the world’s biggest problem, Muslims. I am not anti religion or anti Muslim but the combination of these two facts are where High fertility rates come from. Funny how people that think their intelligent just can’t seem to look these simple facts with clairity.

  7. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 12:07 am 

    More spineless Anglo fools who want to destroy their own country with perhaps merely 20 million aging white Australians and give it away to the billions of Asian “refugees”, in the vain hope that their commie UN will someday rule the earth with their white asses on the pluche.

    EXIT, how appropiate a name! The Chinese can have Australia and NZ and while they are at it, the Vancouver area too.

  8. Boat on Mon, 1st May 2017 12:12 am 

    Clog,

    Soros doesn’t have an army, why do you need one? Your core values can’t win the hearts and minds of the population? Europe has a white majotiety ya know. Learn from the Germans, without dying like them. Look at how well Europe is doing compared to 1945. Peace pays.

  9. GregT on Mon, 1st May 2017 1:23 am 

    “Funny how people that think their intelligent”

    That would be “they’re intelligent” Boat. The fact that you still can’t communicate at a basic 5th grade level, at your age, proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are not even remotely close to being intelligent.

  10. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 1:49 am 

    Soros doesn’t have an army, why do you need one?

    He has you and the US army, well until recently that is. Wonder how they will react in the case of a Donbass-style Heartland uprising after Trump.

    Your core values can’t win the hearts and minds of the population?

    Your core values, namely giving away white lands to the third world, certainly isn’t going to win any hearts and minds of the white deplorables. In November 2016 the US 5-10% and US imperialists like you just lost the Heartland. We Europeans want it back. American 1783-independence (mostly organized by Continental Europe) was a mistake, as you could not generate an elite that could keep a certain minority at a distance (just like the Russians couldn’t and ended up in the Gulag), who after 1900 began to use you as a tool to conquer the world for them at our European cost.

    Europe has a white majotiety ya know.

    If it is up to the stinking western elite of Soros c* suckers this is going to change. But it isn’t up to them. His and your time is up.

    Learn from the Germans, without dying like them.

    You seriously think that you can keep on killing white people, just because the Soros mob asks you to? You still haven’t understood that Anglosphere is about to completely vanish from the Page of Time.

    Look at how well Europe is doing compared to 1945. Peace pays.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4gkQczt95E

    Here the Anglo-Zionist globalist mob destroying my home town Eindhoven in Holland and the Philips factories in particular, with no other intention than to destroy as much European industry as possible to prepare for the “American Century” (that is now almost over); the attack had no military value whatsoever. There never was a liberation, WW2 was a pre-planned frontal attack against Europe by the rising kosher-run globalist powers USA and USSR, making use of the Churchill war party and Polish useful idiots to get the war started.

    Meanwhile Eindhoven and Philips recovered…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NI0XPCU1q4

    …and has become the unofficial heart of global IT and has more than 90% of the global chips machine-producing market, so that well-meaning amateurs like Intel and AMD can produce their microchips. Such are the glory and achievements of the white European race, a dirty word in that Amurrica of yours, completely programmed for white nihilism and self-destruction, thanks to the Soros (and Apneaman) mob.

    Now, why don’t you start a war against China or Russia or better, against both? Everybody knows America is invincible. ROFL

  11. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 2:32 am 

    So instead of Jew hating

    Where would you be without your leaders, right boat? Even someone like Anonymouse understands much better who runs your country than you do, the notorious confederate flag counter.

    why not focus on the demographics that contribute the most to population

    You can bet your last bottom dollar that we are going to criminalize feminism and aim for 2.1 replacement level birth rates, to prevent becoming overrun by the 3rd world.

    A woman, that’s a pink cloud of love, beauty, care, leading to children and should NOT be soldiers or factory workers.

    the world’s biggest problem, Muslims

    IQ85 Allah bots (kashba, camels, figs, Quoran, that’s about it) are completely harmless, provided you keep them away from your lands and forget about this commie integration schemes that never work.

    But a US racial commie like you wants to turn these Muzzies into secular consumers, tack a social security number in their ears like farmers do with cows, so they can be integrated in that $1 hamburger empire of yours. The idea is to use them to conquer the rest of the world; the reality is that they will help blow up your country.

    The reality with Muslims is that Erdogan has bigger fish to fry and is resurrecting his Ottoman Empire/Caliphate. He has our European blessing, as long as he keeps his Allah bots from European lands, provided we don’t kick them out before, just like the Algerians kicked out one million Christian French colonizers in the sixties.

  12. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 4:58 am 

    The argument against (excessive) doomerism:

    http://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/diagnose/lebenserwartung-wie-alt-werden-sie-selbst-so-rein-statistisch-a-1144882.html

    Development life expectancy over the last 5 centuries (example UK, representative for the rest of the developed world)

    “Every week our life expectancy increases with yet another weekend.”

  13. Theedrich on Mon, 1st May 2017 5:50 am 

    Lookie-see, Jackoffgav, Johnnie, the alien Man-ape and Boatster all love the prospect of White genosuicide culminating in Disneyland for the darkies.  And there’s nothing like Leftist museum displays like the one advertized above to start the tearducts flowing among lily-livered extinctionists of this type.  Touching.

    Every form of life from anaerobic and extremophile bacteria to Europe under the Austrian has struggled for life at any and all costs.  Only cunning American and English sociopaths (e.g., Winston Ill-Church), the Marxists and nihilists have blindly negated this conative nisus toward life and decided that evolution must stop and return to a “noble savage” paradise.  But while Euro-America has been entertaining this dreamland fantasy, the U.S. DeepState has become existentially stymied by an oriental dragon in North Korea, and the Chinese are stepping into the planetary power vacuum that Whitey’s negrophile cowardice has brought about.

    Globalist America is filled with ignorami — including military flag officers — who have glib and arrogant answers to the strait jacket tightening around America.  But the Chinks understand that, with Europe filling up with dusky parasites demanding everything in sight as they displace Europeans, and Yankee politicians welcoming millions of narcopeddlers and crime syndicates from Spicland, the Washington reptiles now have nowhere to turn.  Long ago Beijing recognized that the U.S. defeat in the Vietnam war was the turning point:  it was the loss of American will, not of military power, which gave victory to a jungle culture.  Nowadays the Pentagon uses drones and other standoff weapons, and above all proxies, to fight its wars.  Because domestic viewers cannot stand the sight of blood on their five-foot-diagonal color TV flatscreens.

    Few prefer to admit that the world is today entering an apocalyptic power struggle.  The “lone superpower” is now surrounded by too many adversaries and liabilities on the chessboard.  While the sludge (politically represented by the Demonic Party and many “moderate” RINOs) raucously demands that the government pay to cure its toe fungus, the nation is being boxed in by deadly factors and forces, both military and economic.  The pervasive bipartisan kleptomania of the last decades has led to political stalemate.  But most lethal of all is the globalist-driven Zeitgeist which urges Whitey to lose his will to live.

  14. Davy on Mon, 1st May 2017 5:55 am 

    I agree clog, extremism is not helpful on any issue. This board has extremes. If I argue with you on excessive doomerism it is because of your excessive techno optimism. This works both ways. You can’t point fingers without reflecting on your message of excess. The problem with both of us is the compelling arguments on both sides possible in this time of rapid change. It is a time of both growth and decline. It is a time of many developmental possibilities but also the risk of cascading collapse.

    I don’t want excessive doom but I feel compelled to ague it to contrast the extremes here. I am searching for a direction of sorts for alternatives because of the adverse possibilities. Everyone cannot be optimistic and there be plan B. Plan B’s are when there are risks of failure. If arguments are that all is well then we are naked in the face of collapse.

    I am increasingly finding we have no plan B’s only stop gap measures on the way down “If” & “When” dangerous decline accelerates. We appear to be systematically trapped. In this respect excessive doomerism could be dangerous. If the passengers panic on this potentially doomed civilization then it could get worse sooner rather than later. If you are right and techno optimism is warranted then I will be relieved but we are not there yet. Until we have a clear view of sustainable development I am choosing to explore ways we can suffer less in a collapse.

    We have many innocents in our humanity. If we do not employ wisdom then we may make the potential suffering ahead worse. Extremism is not part of the wisdom I am searching for. In our case here we are only exploring these issues we are not influencing policy. You will find my radical doomerism is not so radical in person. I practice my radical doomerism in the abstract of the academic. I am dealing with issues society chooses to ignore because they are painful and in many cases horrible. A die off cannot be explained in a nice way. It is horrible any way you present it. You can try to by saying it will unfold over a generation but even that is depressing.

    Society operates on optimism because it is confidence that motivates our survival. Fear motivates too but it is far more dangerous in a world such as ours with very narrow thresholds. We have a far flung global system that is just-in-time with economies of scale that are financed and traded with fiat currency. There are so many dangers to such a high complexity system both physical and abstract.

    So in conclusion I am arguing doom because someone should. Doom is rare in our world today at least the academic doom of science. There is plenty of rabid doom going around. It is the fact that there is so little academic doom around that I feel it a calling to preach scientific doom. We need to be exploring the dangers and establishing the parameters. We need solutions and solutions are only possible with questions. I feel there are no solutions to our predicaments but there are solutions that represent survival strategies in a time of destructive change.

  15. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 6:23 am 

    Technology that really works:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/05/01/barsha-pump/

  16. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 7:27 am 

    More reality: first implementation of new Swedish under water kite technology in Holyhead, Wales.

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/05/01/under-water-kites/

  17. Hello on Mon, 1st May 2017 7:33 am 

    As long as law and order can be maintained, there’s a long gentle slope downhill and it will take a few centuries to reach bottom.

  18. makati1 on Mon, 1st May 2017 7:40 am 

    Hello, what law and order? There is only the thinnest veneer of law and order in the West today. Coos killing innocent people with no reprimands or hail time. Laws are for the serfs, not the elite. Centuries? We will e lucky if we have years.

  19. Hello on Mon, 1st May 2017 8:06 am 

    Mak, you’ve been saying “we’ve only years” for a decade now.

  20. Apneaman on Mon, 1st May 2017 8:37 am 

    Douchey, I care as much for the white monkeys as I care about the rest of them and that ain’t a lot. You’re far too enraptured in your tribal monkey hate and woo woo to see it, but the entire species is suicidal and will be going bye bye in the not too distant future and it could not have been any other way. The trip there is going to be hellish and even more so for you since you live in retard land (named after you) and you think it could have been otherwise – if only, if only, if only. I, on the other hand do not.

    “Wildlife biologist Neil Dawe says he wouldn’t be surprised if the generation after him witnesses the extinction of humanity.”

    “It’s happening very quickly,” he says.”

    “Everything is worse and we’re still doing the same things,” he says. “Because ecosystems are so resilient, they don’t exact immediate punishment on the stupid.”

    https://web.archive.org/web/20150425132240/http://www.oceansidestar.com/news/web-of-life-unravelling-wildlife-biologist-says-1.605499

  21. joe on Mon, 1st May 2017 8:38 am 

    Global crisis? Anyone see any? Look out your window, see any? Who says crisis? Trump? Look at his poll numbers. Who says crisis? Bremainers, look at the poll numbers of the left (they are getting so desperate even Tony Blair, the Iraq war liar and Opus Dei memeber is being look for). Who says crisis? Le Pen? She is looking for votes, shes as bad as Trump. All people are being lied to. But why? Because they have nothing to offer anymore. They used to offer more socialism, but national budgets cant sustain that thanks to the IMF, they used to offer us protection from communism, Putin and Sing Song Sung wahtever his name is, just seems like second best, they used to offer some kinda hope, now all they offer is promises and then flip flops.
    Nothing promised can be delievered because the global situation is changing towards lower economic growth and lower wages and lower living standards. This got Trump elected, but only lies can sustain them in office. Its the same in every country except those benefiting most, Germany, Saudi Arabia, China, Israel, Egypt who seem to have some kind of magic grip on western politicians and stopping them from doing what nations need to make their own countries prosper. The worst part is that no matter how you vote in whatever western country, it doesnt matter, you cant change anything, thats a sign you live in an oppressive society.
    Those people who have deemed themselves better and smarter than you have decided you will live in a mixed race, mixed religion, mixed gender sexually ruleless society based on greed and selfish will, without cash and you cannot challange companies or the military who are supposed to protect you. So get used to it!

  22. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 9:08 am 

    Douchey, I care as much for the white monkeys as I care about the rest of them and that ain’t a lot. You’re far too enraptured in your tribal monkey hate and woo woo to see it

    The ApneaTurd cares about one little group of monkeys only and hates the rest.

    Is there some measure of superiority that I’m missing? The most powerful are the most powerful. The cream rises to the top. Survival of the fittest and all that. You only look like a sore loser not being able to accept your inferiority. It’s simply the natural order of things. Y’all been trying to rub them people out for over 2000 years and yet they still your overlords.
    Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1 Da Jews R # 1

  23. Apneaman on Mon, 1st May 2017 10:25 am 

    hair clog, I noticed you left the link out so no one could click on it and read my entire comment in it’s full and proper context. See you really are a conniving sneaky little weasel eh? How pathetic that you would worry about such a thing. Why are you too scared to include th link to the full comment hair clog?

    How about because it exposes your euro white supremist & social Darwin “survival of the fittest” claims.

    So, when it comes to explaining european & American colonialism it’s a very convenient argument, but all of a sudden when it’s time to explain the Jews who have all this power over you, it’s out the window and the whining about cheating you out of your birth right starts.

    “It’s not fair” “the jews are cheating” “wa wa wa somebody do something and fix my boo boo”

    Never has there been a more glaring contradiction and double standard.

    All I have done clog is take your own white supremacist “logic” and applied it to explain why the Jews own you and run the world.

    OK hair clog the floor is yours – explain how the Jews could pull off this world owning conspiracy, have all this power and wealth and pull all the strings y’all, “elders of zion” retards claim they do AND yet still be inferior to your speical tribe?

    hair clog…. got some splaining to doooo

    We’re all listening.

  24. GregT on Mon, 1st May 2017 10:47 am 

    “Technology that really works”

    The people of present day Nepal have been farming the area for ~3000 years, without this wondrous “technology that really works”. Creating dependancies on fossil fuels based technologies, at a moment in history when they will soon become problematic, is not exactly a brilliant plan.

  25. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 11:15 am 

    Clogmeister, I noticed you left the link out so no one could click on it and read my entire comment in it’s full and proper context. See you really are a conniving sneaky little weasel eh? How pathetic that you would worry about such a thing. Why are you too scared to include th link to the full comment Clogmeister?

    Ever heard of Google, TalmudTurd? Copy/paste, fourth Google result. And what is it you want to say, anyway? Do no deny that you love your own group of monkeys, or what? Or are you going to twist and bend, to deny this in front of this goy?

    How about because it exposes your euro white supremist & social Darwin “survival of the fittest” claims.

    When it comes to European territory, I am indeed a European supremacist and have zero interest to submit to Muslims or Africans, and I don’t give a f* about what your opinion is about it. You already know that we in Europe do not give a f* about you….

    https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

    …which is precisely the reason you all fled to the US, tail between the legs, a young and naive country, where they didn’t knew you too well. You never had a chance with us directly. So you had to sick the Americans and Soviets against us, who were no match for you. The Russians got rid of you after a two-three decades and had to withdraw in 1991. Your Americans will soon follow, too many enemies, too internally divided and then there is a rising China and a rising Islam. Oh and Europe is economically on top again, where the US is sliding into 3rd worldism:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOMsCUeZ6rw

    You could even cynically argue that you are doing us in Europe a favor by destroying America for us by promoting mass migration and race mixing and paving the way for us Europeans to take in our natural place…

    https://s18.postimg.org/ieq72v70p/Charles_Murray.png

    …after this brief and sordid US-Soviet intermezzo. Keep up the good work ApneaTurd, you are doing fine! Weiter so!

    “It’s not fair” “the jews are cheating” “wa wa wa somebody do something and fix my boo boo”

    Give me a quote where I suggest that. You can’t. I didn’t. Instead I’m making fun of you, how you destroy the very weapon you have against the rest of the world by turning the country in a 3rd world hell hole, about to explode… which explains your nihilism, because you know that YOUR future is extremely bleak and that the objectives of your tribe are going to fail majestically.

    You lost Soviet-Russia and you are about to lose the US. But hey, you can have New York and play NWO there, to the amusement of the rest of the world. And perhaps you can even make boat, ghung and sissyfuss write a weekly essay about their “white privilege” and what they plan to do about it. It is going to be hilarious, bigly.

    OK hair clog the floor is yours – explain how the Jews could pull off this world owning conspiracy

    A belief of being “Gods Chosen People” (how is that for supremacy). Millennia old money skills, media ownership, the FED fraud with which you can corrupt US politics and subsidize communist causes all around the world and high verbal IQ and dialectic mastery, aimed at deceiving and manipulating. And of course the Nuremberg lies. And finding easy American and Russian meat.

    And then there was the internet to expose it all.ROFL

  26. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 11:18 am 

    The people of present day Nepal have been farming the area for ~3000 years, without this wondrous “technology that really works”. Creating dependancies on fossil fuels based technologies, at a moment in history when they will soon become problematic, is not exactly a brilliant plan.

    Why don’t you tell these people in Nepal that they should destroy their new pump and drag buckets with water up the hill again for 6 hours per day, like in the old days, breaking their backs in the process.

    I trust you are still comfortable in your doomstead, high up north, with your wonderful technologies, dependent on fossil fuel? You do? Excellent!

  27. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 11:41 am 

    Oh my, look who is owning the joint:

    http://tinyurl.com/ksgsvoc

    Did you see that boat? But you can still call your Swedes names, not to mention the Germans, still the largest minority in the US.

    Though shalt not criticize your emperor, or else!

    Countdown to the Gulag on US soil (if Europe doesn’t intervene):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC-Cqkq6zWc

  28. GregT on Mon, 1st May 2017 11:46 am 

    “Why don’t you tell these people in Nepal that they should destroy their new pump and drag buckets with water up the hill again for 6 hours per day, like in the old days, breaking their backs in the process.”

    In case you are unaware, water flows downhill. The more CO2 we pump into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels to manufacture all of these “technologies that really work”, the faster the glaciers melt, and the sooner the rivers dry up. Not exactly rocket science Cloggie. No glacial melt, no rivers, no use for the wondrous “technologies that really work” that we haven’t needed for the past hundreds of thousands of years. Those technologies are the problems themselves, not the solution to the problems.

  29. J-Gav on Mon, 1st May 2017 12:16 pm 

    Theedry-Prick,

    We already thought you were a pea-brained racist, but this new rant goes beyond confirming it. Thank you for making things clear.

  30. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 12:32 pm 

    In case you are unaware, water flows downhill. The more CO2 we pump into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels to manufacture all of these “technologies that really work”, the faster the glaciers melt, and the sooner the rivers dry up. Not exactly rocket science Cloggie. No glacial melt, no rivers, no use for the wondrous “technologies that really work” that we haven’t needed for the past hundreds of thousands of years. Those technologies are the problems themselves, not the solution to the problems.

    Not sure what your point is regarding water flowing downhill.

    Could it be that you missed that the beauty of this device is that it combines a pump and hydro-generator to pump the water and that therefor this device needs zero fossil fuel? It is entirely driven by the force of flowing water.

  31. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 12:41 pm 

    We already thought you were a pea-brained racist, but this new rant goes beyond confirming it. Thank you for making things clear.

    Although I agree that T. could tone down his language a little, I still must remind you that there is no such thing as “we” here.

    And while we are at it, and France is the country in Europe that is most “down the drain”… I trust that you support the Rothschildt candidate Macron and perhaps even vote for him?

    Do you agree with him that French culture basically doesn’t exist?

    http://europeanpost.co/macron-denies-the-existence-of-a-french-culture/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iit3Kabs7QA

    (Douce France)

  32. GregT on Mon, 1st May 2017 1:34 pm 

    “Not sure what your point is regarding water flowing downhill.”

    Not surprising, but in all likelihood you eventually will.

    “Could it be that you missed that the beauty of this device is that it combines a pump and hydro-generator to pump the water and that therefor this device needs zero fossil fuel? It is entirely driven by the force of flowing water.”

    It requires the burning of fossil fuels in it’s design, manufacturing, delivery, and maintenance.

    From your link:

    “The empowering people Award recognizes creative technological solutions for sustainable improvment of basic services.”

    What the people of Nepal did for ~3000 years before was sustainable. Hydro-generators, pumps, hoses, etc., are not sustainable. They all require the consumption of non-renewable resources, and the addition of more greenhouse gasses into the environment. They also have a limited useful lifespan before they will need to be repaired and/or replaced. A complete load of BS.

  33. Boat on Mon, 1st May 2017 1:36 pm 

    Clog,

    I support free speech globally. I think political correctness is out of control. Violence, threading voilance, breaking windows, overturning cars are just signs of weakness and ignorance. Any acts like that is an infringement on law abiding citizens. If you don’t like the laws, organize and change them. Barring that, complain and suck it up and take it like a man.

  34. Boat on Mon, 1st May 2017 1:44 pm 

    Clog,

    French culture like all cultures evolve. I don’t mind the French not wearing powdered wigs for example. If you look around the entire world I would say the French have done quite well. N Korean culture, not so much.

  35. GregT on Mon, 1st May 2017 2:02 pm 

    “Violence, threading voilance, breaking windows, overturning cars are just signs of weakness and ignorance. Any acts like that is an infringement on law abiding citizens. If you don’t like the laws, organize and change them. Barring that, complain and suck it up and take it like a man.”

    So I guess you don’t support the American Revolution, the Civil War, the declaration of independence, or the constitution of the United States of America?

  36. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 3:27 pm 

    Greg opines: the faster the glaciers melt, and the sooner the rivers dry up. Not exactly rocket science Cloggie. No glacial melt, no rivers

    Dear Greg, let me inform you that the contribution of glaciers, melting or otherwise, is virtually zero. All rivers are essentially rain rivers, even if they “originate” from a glacier. A river, that is the draining of a catchment area. A glacier is perhaps a few square miles and hardly catches any precipitation. A catchment area can be tens of not hundreds of thousands of km2. Most of the giant rivers of Russia have no glaciers at the beginning. It is the size of the basin/catchment area, plus precipitation that determine the flow at the estuary. The contribution of glaciers is negligible.

    In other words, if the glaciers of the world have melt, it would have zero impact on rivers.

  37. onlooker on Mon, 1st May 2017 3:46 pm 

    That is not right Clog, Glaciers are an important part of our fresh water supply.
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/12/1112-melting-glaciers-mean-double-trouble-for-water-supplies/
    Melting Glaciers Mean Double Trouble for Water Supplies

  38. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 4:04 pm 

    Paradies Glacier, “origin” Rhine river:

    http://tinyurl.com/lbyyo5x

    Rhine delta in Holland:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwss1P60DyI

    As I said, the contribution of glaciers to large rivers is negligible. It is for 99.9+% rain/molten snow.

  39. Ghung on Mon, 1st May 2017 10:40 pm 

    Cloggie in Wonderland. Really, Cloggo?

    “India has 5243 glaciers covering an area of 37579 km2 and containing 142.88 km2 of ice.
    The Gangotri glacier, the source of the Ganga is receding at 20-23 miles per year. Millain glacier is receding at 30m/yr, Dukrian is retreating at 15-20m/yr. The receding of glaciers has accelerated with global warming. The rate of retreat of the gangotri glacier has tripled in the last three years. Some of the most devastating effects of glacial meltdown occures when glacial lakes overflow and the phenomena of Glacial Lake Outburst Floods (GLOFs) take place.

    Climate change thus initially leads to widespread flooding, but over time, as the snow disappears there will be draught in the summer. In the Ganga, the loss of glacier meltdown would reduce July – September flows by two thirds, causing water shortages for 500 million people and 37 percent of India’s irrigated land.

    Glacial runoff in the Himalayas is the largest source of fresh water for northern India and provides more than half the water to the Ganga. Glacial runoff is also the source of the Indus, the Brahmaputra, the Irrawady and the Yellow and Yantze rivers.”

    http://www.navdanya.org/climate-change/in-the-himalayas

  40. Cloggie on Mon, 1st May 2017 11:33 pm 

    ‘”Climate change thus initially leads to widespread flooding, but over time, as the snow disappears there will be draught in the summer. ”

    When the snow disappears there is draugt. Snow is precipitation, not melting “eternal” glacier ice. So yes, if precipitation stops, there is draught, since precipitation is the main source of a river, which was my point.

  41. Cloggie on Tue, 2nd May 2017 2:55 am 

    Global Greening in the New York Times (CO2 benefits contradict SCC)

    https://www.masterresource.org/climate-benefits-agw/global-greening-nyt/

    There are benefits, not only costs, to the human influence on climate. Photosynthesis from carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions is part of this.

    Expect the benefits of CO2 to show up in a recalculation of the “social costs” of the enhanced greenhouse effects, which will dramatically lower the Obama-era estimates that looked at (exaggerated) costs, not benefits.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/science/carbon-dioxide-plant-growth-antarctic-ice.html

    A new study suggests the world’s plants capture an extra 28 billion tons of carbon each year.

    Last year, all the world’s nations combined pumped nearly 38.2 billion tons of carbon dioxide into the air from the burning of fossil fuels such as coal and oil, according to new international calculations on global emissions published Sunday in the journal Nature Climate Change.

    38-28 = 10 billion ton net.

    Most CO2 is therefor absorbed by new extra vegetation. And a little higher temperature is good for growth of vegetation as well.

    Most folks from the “peak oil community” quietly dropped the peak oil subject and found in climate change a suitable follow-up for their inherent hankering towards doom and gloom. Peak oil/CC mainly as a character trait, that is the susceptibility for negative messages.

    Could it be that they are fooled again? And that perhaps the benefits outweigh the disadvantages?

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