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How the Collapse of Venezuela Really Happened

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Today we welcome back our friend Jose, who wrote the awesome article about Christmas in Venezuela. It was so well-received that I invited him back to do a recurring series. In this piece, he begins telling us the story about how his country started the slide into a slow-motion collapse. Jose is a heck of a storyteller and he leaves us hanging at the end, but don’t worry, Part 2 is coming soon! ~ Daisy

My Story of the Collapse of Venezuela

I believe it is the moment of an introduction for our readers to know how everything began. Venezuela is a wonderful country, with lots of peculiarities and attractions.

I love my country, and most of the people, even in these harsh times portraits wonderful qualities as a society that few countries in the world have.

This was once a beautiful land, relatively sparsely populated where food was plentiful, money was never scarce, and jobs were plentiful. The weather was very sunny, the days a little hot and people used to recline in their chairs in front of the door of their house and watch the neighbors go on arriving from a day’s work, and they greeted with courtesy. The neighborhoods were mostly safe. There was practically no monster known as inflation, bank loans were easily available and people often traveled to other countries without much concern for things like exchange controls, access to foreign currency, among other things.

There was no Internet, there were no so-called experimental drugs in the streets, access to a decent life was more or less possible if one had discipline and will, and in general, life was good. The cars used huge carburetors (some still use them), the fuel was abundant, and at the best prices on the planet, its inhabitants crossed the territory of almost one million km2 enjoying beautiful beaches, lonely plains, lush jungles and even the odd snow peak. The climate is optimal to live all year round with shorts, fresh clothes, and sandals.

It was very strange to hear of any deportation, and thousands of foreigners over the years came on vacation, and they stayed forever. Our beautiful women attract the attention of the whole world (and still do) and an endless line of ships left our ports, carrying their valuable black cargo to return loaded with that green paper that is accepted all over the world.

The country had an educational system of a very acceptable level. University education was free in most cases, and although the system required qualifications above the average for access to it, the demand was very high as the need for qualified professionals was such that, coming from a humble background, anyone with the ability, the desire to do it and enough enthusiasm could become a graduate and have a decent life, improving their socio-economic status and reaping the fruits of their effort and their work.

But not everything would be honey over flakes.

So much wealth of economic resources, and the inherent flaws of the lack of a solid, strong legal system, a sufficiently entrenched bases that could safeguard and safeguard the public patrimony, the lack of committed officials, with enough values and ethical and moral principles, It would lead to levels of corruption rarely seen in the world, with exceptions in some African republics. The main companies in the country adopted as a policy to place most of their financial resources in foreign banks. Investments in infrastructure were becoming smaller and smaller, and as the population grew and demanded services, this lack of investment became more palpable. The social policies that until then had been sufficient, with the corrupt elite that began to seize the country in those years were reduced to its minimum expression. These were the years of the second government period executed by populist (deceased) leader Carlos Andres Perez. His government was characterized by some of the biggest and darkest corrupted business of the decade. Getting in debt with the FMI was the straw that broke the camel´s back.

The fraudulent business in the government was: construction of schools, hospitals, highways, and roads, among a myriad of works that remained unfinished, without the population expressing disapproval. The political elite leaders were driving around luxury cars, escorted by heavily armed bodyguards, behaving like great lords. Most of them were soldiers who were linked at the time to the movement that gave the coup years ago. Crime grew steadily but was kept at bay by a police force that also fulfilled the role of containing “subversive” elements: people sympathetic to the concepts of the left.

Friends of the country supplied practically all industrialization needs, but technology transfer was a totally non-existent concept: the domination scheme was always maintained, and the few national companies that were able to carry out a true technological independence saw their functions paralyzed by government controls that would end up suffocating a large number of them. Despite the fact that, within the Latin American context, the professionals were among the most qualified and trained, the low wages meant that many of these professionals emigrated continuously, in a so-called brain drain that has been much more pronounced in recent years.

But let’s go slowly.

This situation led to a severe deterioration of socio-economic conditions, gradually but unswervingly causing the necessary scenario for citizens to slowly acquire the necessary awareness that a radical change was essential if they wanted improvements in their quality of life. A country with vast, enormous resources, but with inhabitants that increasingly felt the impact of inflation, a shortage that nobody could explain, and knowing this reality, seeing their political class isolated from the realities that the bulk of the population was suffering.

The whole thing was reaching a point of very high dissatisfaction. Student demonstrations, street disorders began to become more common. Corruption scandals came to light, but the guilty were seldom apprehended or put to rights. Most of the time they left fleeing to some country to enjoy the stolen riches.

This the people saw him repeat so much that he filled his already exhausted patience. On the date of February 27, 1989, after the announcement of economic measures (requested by the IMF for access to international financing) by the then President of the Republic, Carlos Andrez Perez, including an exacerbated increase in the price of gasoline, an wave of extremely violent protests, a violence like never before seen in the country, not even in the turbulent era of the guerrillas of the 60s and early 70s. The security forces were overwhelmed: poorly equipped and worse prepared to face disorders of this nature, the Government of that time had to resort. The looting was generalized in the largest cities in the country, causing terror in older citizens both nationalized and native, who paralyzed by surprise, never thought that such a situation could occur in a country so absurdly rich and prosperous.

It was not a coup attempt. It was a situation of widespread discontent, a call for attention to the Latin American style, in protest of the excesses publicly committed by the corrupt elite class of politicians who had been in power for more than 40 years through a pact known in the country as the Fixed Point Pact. Among the infinity of anecdotes that swarm among Venezuelans is known one in which an alcoholic, good-for-nothing president called Jaime Lusinchi (recently deceased in the Miami streets, like a vagabond) sent a Hercules C-130 from a military base on the island La Orchila, to the mainland … in search of ONE chest of ice to cool the president´s whiskey.

Tell me about it…

It is said that this situation was planned by the left, but in the absence of a more detailed investigation, for the moment it is difficult to confirm this theory.

What I saw personally

I would like to tell you about my experience as a young man, in the town where I lived with my parents at the time.

The day the riots began, we began to see on TV what was happening in the big cities. At the beginning, I did not understand very well what it was about, but my parents told me that the economic situation had reached an extreme where people could not take it anymore, so they took to the streets, in the first instance to protest against the package of economic measures imposed by the IMF.

The protests, perhaps moderately organized from the beginning by some factions, evolved rapidly during the course of the day, becoming looting that began in the largest cities, and quickly spread throughout the country. But let’s not get ahead …

I was in school, in high school. The teachers, around 9 am, led by the director of the institute, were classroom by classroom, from the lower grades to the older ones, evacuating us all and giving the order to go directly to our homes. Of course, what we did was divide into groups, with each group going where it seemed best. Since I had friends in my old school, I thought it would be interesting to go there and spend some time hanging around with them. As teenagers, after all, our group went there, going through what was a commercial area, and we were surprised and even had a bit of fun to see that there was no vehicle traffic, so that we were soon walking through the center of the street, without realizing that a student demonstration had come out to protest before us, and we were following it without realizing it.

In Venezuela the uniform is used until finishing secondary school, so for the eyes of the authorities, we were part of the demonstration. When we walked, we were surprised to see many people on the streets: housewives, young men and women who would normally be working, including adults and the elderly. Some of them told us not to follow, and to go home. Suddenly, we saw in front of the boys of the school we were going to, who came in the opposite direction to us, in a huge group and mixed with people of all kinds: young, elders, ladies, grown-up angry men…

(To be continued…)

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83 Comments on "How the Collapse of Venezuela Really Happened"

  1. Duncan Idaho on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 12:04 pm 

    Yea, more “analysis” from the top 20%.
    So why is Maduro still in power? From reports, he was on the way out years ago.
    And when the new refinery goes on line next year (small, but out of the hands of the US), it will be interesting to see.
    Not a good situation, but contrary to the “order” of capitalist rule.
    Let them have their revolution– they will make it or not, but it will never be back to international control by global capitalists.

  2. Cloggie on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 2:23 pm 

    Mr Brexit Farage in U-turn offers second referendum.

    EU not interested, says it has moved on and accepts Brexit as fact.

    British population doesn’t want another 2nd referendum either, thank God.

    De Gaulle was right, Britain doesn’t belong in Europe, Russia does. Britain should apply for membership of the US as 52nd state.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5262225/Most-Britons-DONT-want-second-Brexit-referendum.html

  3. deadly on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 2:32 pm 

    It is a lot better world when communists rule, there are a lot more dead people, by the millions, which is the desired goal.

    Cheers!

  4. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 2:40 pm 

    Clogg

    Nobody cares about stupid brexit. Why do you troll and spam an energy blog with your political garbage?

  5. Cloggie on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 3:04 pm 

    Millimind complaining about spamming, that’s rich. Face it, this peek oil superstition is dead, only slow lane suckers like you try to warm up a corpse by posting always the same 5 obsolete 2010 articles. Not even Heinberg believes his own bs any more and has come to his senses and now promotes 100% renewable energy.

    https://www.amazon.com/Our-Renewable-Future-Hundred-Percent/dp/1610917790/ref=sr_1_sc_1

    The energy problem is basically solved, the direction is clear and there is enough fossil fuel left to complete the transition. Real interesting developments are the immanent implosion of the US empire, the rise of the multipolar world, overpopulation, mass migration, balkanization, civil war, climate change, etc.

  6. Davy on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 3:22 pm 

    The Energy problem is not solved and we are far from a solution. You are at single digit penetration for solar and wind globally. They are the basis of the transformation. Storage infrastructure almost negligible. Just because you have had a few years of growth of solar and wind does not mean problem solved. SNAKE OIL

  7. print baby print on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 3:34 pm 

    bank loans were easily available and people often traveled to other countries without much concern for things like exchange controls, access to foreign currency, among other things.
    That s where all the shit start

  8. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:02 pm 

    Clogg

    If you read that book heinberg says 100 percent renewable is impossible. You idiot!

  9. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:05 pm 

    Clogg said

    The energy problem is basically solved, the direction is clear and there is enough fossil fuel left to complete the transition.

    Existing oil reserves are scheduled to begin a catastrophic crash within 1 to 3 years. When it hits the economic and social damage will be catastrophic. The end of Western Civilization, from China to Europe, to the US, will not occur when oil runs out. The economic and social chaos will occur when supplies are merely reduced sufficiently….

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/has-peak-oil-already-happened/
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030142151300342X
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254
    http://www.geo.cornell.edu/eas/energy/the_challenges/peak_oil.html
    https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt

    UC Davis Study: It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives (Malyshkina, 2010)
    http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100730q

    University of Chicago Study: predicts world economy unlikely to stop relying on fossil fuels (Covert, 2016)
    https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jep.30.1.117

    Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
    https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf

    Solar and wind produced less than 1 percent! And clog thinks we are on our way to 100 percent! LOL He must be autistic!

  10. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:08 pm 

    The energy problem is solved says Clogg even though new oil discoveries last year where an all time low. Just ignore the discoveries data. And the IEA and Saudi’s!

    As M. King Hubbert (1962) shows, Peak Oil is about discovering less oil, and eventually producing less oil due to lack of discovery.
    https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt

    IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
    Saudi Aramco CEO sees oil shortage coming as investments, oil discoveries drop
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aramco-oil/aramco-ceo-sees-oil-supply-shortage-as-investments-discoveries-drop-idUSKBN19V0KR

    Peak Oil Vindicated by the IEA and Saudi Arabia

  11. Cloggie on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:23 pm 

    “If you read that book heinberg says 100 percent renewable is impossible.“

    “Our Renewable Future: Laying the Path for One Hundred Percent Clean Energy”

    Fool.

  12. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:27 pm 

    Clogg

    yes and if you actually read the book he argues its impossible! You stupid idiot! The only way to debunk peak oil is to make some massive new oil discoveries. No book, no claims matter. All that matters is new oil discoveries. Which peaked in the 1960’s. And we have been discovering less oil than we consume since 1984 no matter what the price of oil was….
    https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt

  13. Boat on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:29 pm 

    M M

    Your Almondinger link was written in 2007 and Cornell University has a disclaimer on it. One of the projections says we run out between 2010 and 2050. Your more of an idiot than one our past friends geopressure that made outrageous claims like you.

  14. Antius on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:34 pm 

    Cloggie, 100% renewable energy will be very difficult and expensive to achieve, all the more so in densely populated Europe, unless you are able to identify a hitherto unknown and untapped source of hydropower.

    Over the past year I have provided you with all the evidence you should need to reach the same conclusion. I provided the analysis in a form that you could easily peer review. Do I need to provide it again?

    Wanting something to be true, no matter how strongly, does not make it so. I would like to believe that faster than light travel were possible, so that I could enjoy the sights of Wolf-359. But I know full well that my personal desires will not change the laws of physics. Neither will yours.

    Renewable energy has an entropy problem, that no amount of hype and propaganda will solve. You can use it to extend fossil fuels, but that is about all it will do at a price that any country can afford.

  15. Boat on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:37 pm 

    Davy

    Nuclear energy, hydro energy, solar and wind are not FF and put out much less CO2 over their life of producing energy. The combination of all these energy producers is getting close to 20 percent. What’s not to like.

  16. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:45 pm 

    Boat

    As M. King Hubbert (1962) shows, Peak Oil is about discovering less oil, and eventually producing less oil due to lack of discovery.
    https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt

    IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
    Saudi Aramco CEO sees oil shortage coming as investments, oil discoveries drop
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aramco-oil/aramco-ceo-sees-oil-supply-shortage-as-investments-discoveries-drop-idUSKBN19V0KR

    Peak Oil Vindicated by the IEA and Saudi Arabia

    What about those links Boat. And this one
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016236114010254

    And this one. You seemed to just cherry pick sources…You are very stupid and ignorant. And you are a pussy!
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030142151300342X

    What about this one clog from last year
    https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt

  17. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:48 pm 

    Boat

    Just face it you are an uneducated redneck who beats his sister/wife every night! You just cant handle reality that is why you people are so religious! You can never admit the truth about peak oil because you are so unstable you would most likely lose your imbread mind! lol

  18. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:49 pm 

    We can no longer talk about reforming the system. The system is past reform. The wealth has been misallocated. The environmental destruction has been done. The irreversible climate change is happening. The energy supplies are dwindling. We are out of resources.

    https://imgur.com/a/6dEDt
    http://dels.nas.edu/resources/static-assets/materials-based-on-reports/booklets/warming_world_final.pdf

  19. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:49 pm 

    Soon!
    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/52d222e9.gif

  20. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:51 pm 

    The screams of denial sound like the squealing of a pig beginning delivered to the butchers shop. The volume of their protestations being directly proportional to the proximity of their inevitable fate.

  21. Cloggie on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 4:52 pm 

    “Do I need to provide it again?”

    No, please save your time, because this would be my response:

    https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/publications/studies/what-will-the-energy-transformation-cost.html

    I trust the Fraunhofer institute did its homework and that their configuration is workable, regardless if it is 90 or 100% renewable.

  22. Davy on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 5:10 pm 

    Boat, those are stagnant growth energy sources. Future growth will have to come from wind and solar with storage.

  23. Davy on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 5:28 pm 

    Fraunhofer is a hopeless flawed goal seeking study that is exactly the kind of study the neder likes. He like those boarderline fantasy pseudo science creations bureaucracies love to churn out.

  24. Boat on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 6:09 pm 

    Davy,

    Google renewables 2017 IEA.

  25. MASTERMIND on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 6:35 pm 

    Walmart is reportedly planning to cut over 1,000 corporate jobs

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/12/walmart-is-reportedly-planning-to-cut-over-1000-corporate-jobs.html

  26. ____________________________________________ on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 7:03 pm 

    shit(holes) happen(s), monkeyfuckers

  27. onlooker on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 8:19 pm 

    Oh, it was NOT Communism
    Venezuela who saw IMPROVEMENT with Chavez
    https://www.thenation.com/article/why-i … in-crisis/
    https://www.telesurtv.net/english/analy … -0035.html
    https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/4064

  28. Cloggie on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 10:36 pm 

    “Fraunhofer is a hopeless flawed goal seeking study that is exactly the kind of study the neder likes. He like those boarderline fantasy pseudo science creations bureaucracies love to churn out”.

    Amazing at what length you are prepared to go to keep your flawed self-defeatist doomer worldview alive. Fraunhofer institute is to renewables what in the sixties NASA was to space engineering: both competent German run bureaucrafies that get things done.

  29. GregT on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 11:20 pm 

    “Walmart is reportedly planning to cut over 1,000 corporate jobs”

    From your link MM:

    “Walmart, the country’s largest private employer, has 1.5 million workers in the U.S. and 2.3 million around the world.”

    BFD.

  30. Makati1 on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 11:38 pm 

    Greg, I tried to point out that the Walmart store closings and layoffs are nothing more then a rounding error in their numbers. It apparently did not register.

  31. GregT on Fri, 12th Jan 2018 11:47 pm 

    “It apparently did not register.”

    Not much does, apparently.

    And I still think that you should change your user name to ‘Mad Kat’. It makes you sound tough, and cool, at the same time.

  32. Makati1 on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 12:54 am 

    Ok, I’ll do it and see what happens. LOL

  33. Mad Kat on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 12:55 am 

    Now we will see how long it takes to get a put-down from Davy. ^_^

  34. GregT on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 1:43 am 

    Awesome BT. I must admit that mad kat has been growing on me.

    I’d find an appropriate avatar as well. Something really ‘in your face’.

    May as well go all out. 🙂

  35. Mad Kat on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 1:56 am 

    Greg, this site is good for some actual education from yourself and a few others, but mostly for entertainment from the likes of Boat, Davy and MM. You couldn’t find three better examples of why the US is circling the drain. Normal Americans are outnumbered by their kind, I guess.

    I hope that I have time to drop in here occasionally after we move next month. I will be busy with a new garden and supervising the building of the farmhouse. The internet there is not as fast or reliable. It is satellite/tower feed and weather can interfere. We shall see.

  36. GregT on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 2:05 am 

    It’s been a real eye opener for me Mad Kat.

    I never realized how deep the indoctrination could possible run. After five long years of ‘their’ multiple daily attacks, you’d think that some certain individuals might possibly be able to grow a brain. I guess not. The farce runs deep with ‘them’.

  37. GregT on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 2:25 am 

    “Normal Americans are outnumbered by their kind, I guess.”

    I’d like to believe otherwise, but their ignorance and stupidities are rather dominant on this forum. They aren’t exactly giving the rest of the US Americans a stellar reputation.

    Maybe after a reset, descent Americans everywhere will shut the likes of these idiots down. One can only hope.

  38. deadly on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 2:29 am 

    Venezuela is going through some growing pains, there is nothing new under the sun.

    Mother Bloor came along long before Chavez, Maduro, and Castro et al:

    In 1937 Bloor made her fourth visit to the Soviet Union, this time to commemorate the twentieth anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution. Upon her return, she published Women in the Soviet Union (1938), a pamphlet praising the Soviet system of child care. In the 1930s and 1940s, the party began to celebrate her birthday and even hosted “Mother Bloor picnics,” further raising her status beyond the party.

    It’s fair to ask whether Bloor had doubts about the Soviet Union, the then-leader of the communist project, and communism more generally. By the 1930s, Stalin had demonstrated an utter lack of concern for democracy or human rights, imprisoning and killing millions of his own people. Stalin, and Lenin before him, had also sought to destroy anarchists, anarcho-syndicalists, Trotskyists, and other on the Left who questioned Soviet policy, most notoriously in crushing the Kronstadt rebellion.

    However, in the 1930s, the Soviet Union and Communist Parties around the world embraced the Popular Front. In the United States, the CPUSA seemed to act quite independently of the Soviet Union and attracted a great many to its ranks and countless more “fellow travelers” with its bold commitment to working people’s struggles during the Great Depression. Moreover, as demonstrated in the Scottsboro case, American Communists, white and black, boldly led the fight for racial equality and industrial unionism. Bloor, who referred to the CPUSA as her family, was hardly alone in excusing Soviet crimes in the hope that socialism was just around the corner.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/ella-reeve-mother-bloor-communist-party-unions-soviet-union

    Truly a remarkable woman.

    Nothing wrong with wanting to be a communist/socialist, a Wobblie, if that is what you want to be, go for it.

    However, communism results in the deaths of millions. Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, those idiots managed to make life for millions pure hell. Stalin and those other nuts were nuts.

    No sense in forgetting about what really happened.

    Facts and stuff.

  39. Mad Kat on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 2:46 am 

    Greg, the ‘exceptionalist’ indoctrination runs deep in the US. It has been going on 24/7/365 since at least WW2. Generations have been brainwashed just like in a religion. It took getting outside the country, and off the tourist path, to shed the blinders and open my mind to the real world.

    I choose to live in what the West calls the 3rd world, but what I call a huge improvement on the US. All I get from Tweedledee and Tweedledum is the same numbers bullshit and how the collapse of the “indispensable” US is going to take the rest of the world into the shitter. I bet not. I don’t see that happening.

    I’m somewhat amazed at how dense those two are. Both claim to be educated and intelligent, but then they revert to 6th grade language and tactics when they disagree with what I write. I keep telling them to just ignore my comments, but they are obsessive about domination. They just cannot resist the chance to show off their immaturity. It makes good theater. lol

  40. GregT on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 2:49 am 

    “However, communism results in the deaths of millions.”

    And now that capitalism has been embraced by all, expect the deaths of far more than mere millions.

    In all likelihood, extinction of the human race.

  41. GregT on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 3:12 am 

    “I’m somewhat amazed at how dense those two are. Both claim to be educated and intelligent, but then they revert to 6th grade language and tactics when they disagree with what I write.”

    People in general attack others for one of two reasons Mad Kat. Emotional insecurities, or jealousy. Basic human psychology.

  42. Mad Kat on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 4:08 am 

    True Greg. Very true. I remember that from my college psychology class. I would guess both reasons explain their reactions. They seem to be trapped in their situation and unable/unwilling to get out of it.

  43. Davy on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 4:56 am 

    “Amazing at what length you are prepared to go to keep your flawed self-defeatist doomer worldview alive.
    It’s called realism and sobriety with reflection. It is called seeking the modesty of human wisdom not human exceptionalism with cocky wants of advancement. It is an acknowledgement of errors and bad behavior at the species level and realizing we will pay a price now. There is no avoiding a reckoning. We can do much but we must be very honest about what we can and can’t do. There is no longer room for error. Time is too short and resources too scarce. We can lengthen the life of this late term civilization and lower the pain and suffering that will be necessary. Necessary in this case is required by natural law of our planetary system.

    Fraunhofer institute is to renewables what in the sixties NASA was to space engineering: both competent German run bureaucrafies that get things done.”
    Wow, yea, look where NASA is today and what they preached back in the 60’s. I am not saying they will not be competent and promote wonderful engineering. What I am saying is they are a goal seeking bureaucracy with unrealistic goals. They are a promotion device of a social narrative of a 100% renewable future. Honest science would admit to huge difficulties ahead and admit that the likelihood of success is low. Instead this organization is unrealistically optimistic and hyping science. This is just the type of organization the neder falls all over in praise. They are German and hyping renewables the neder must get a throb in his crouch every time he open that fraunhofer PDF.

  44. Davy on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 5:00 am 

    “It apparently did not register.” “Not much does, apparently.”

    There is not much that registers with you two clowns either. All you two are about is swooning each other as if you are both wonderful. Get a room and quit pursuing your affair here.

  45. Davy on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 5:08 am 

    “people in general attack others for one of two reasons Mad Kat. Emotional insecurities, or jealousy. Basic human psychology.”

    You described yourself perfectly. You stalk and prick Americans exclusively. You are a rabid anti-American west coast Canadian. You enable the board anti-American and love his narcissism. You yourself are a narcissistic brat but try to appear respectable. Your self image is everything and that generally reflects a self absorbed personality with deeply buried latent insecurities.

  46. Davy on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 5:11 am 

    “True Greg. Very true. I remember that from my college psychology class.”

    Liar, you have said you dropped out of college. You go to great links to diminish and discredit college educations and it is no wonder. You are a drop out.

  47. Davy on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 5:22 am 

    “I hope that I have time to drop in here occasionally after we move next month. “
    My god it is about time. 5 years of neutering and soon to be MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

    “I will be busy with a new garden and supervising the building of the farmhouse.”
    I just can’t see you getting your hands dirty. I mean what have you done for the last 10 years in Makati? Hung out in a condo pounding a keyboard with anti-Americanism and self-promotion puke. Now you are 75 and probably frail. A small garden will probably work for you. I can only imagine you supervising the farmhouse construction. LOL. BTW, how long does it take to build a little concrete shack? I can see you telling others what to do. Making an effort to show how smart you are. God forbid you would do any work yourself.

  48. Davy on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 5:32 am 

    “It’s been a real eye opener for me Mad Kat.”
    The real eye opener is being rightly disrespected for poor behavior. You can’t believe anyone would tell you like it is. You can’t believe someone would stand up to your rabidly critical positions and self-promotions. You are a clown.

    “I never realized how deep the indoctrination could possible run.”
    Right, I think anti-Americanism is given to children from their mother’s milk in Canada. I have never come across a whole nation fixated so critically on another nation and not accepting responsibility for their own participation in these national sins. A nation so wealthy and successful because of a neighbor and hating that neighbor because of it. A nation built on anti-American hypocrisy.

    “After five long years of ‘their’ multiple daily attacks, you’d think that some certain individuals might possibly be able to grow a brain. I guess not. The farce runs deep with ‘them’.”
    Five long years of being moderated sucks doesn’t it. I guess you probably wondered why this board is no longer dominated exclusively by anti-Americanism. That is because it has taken persistent neutering of the sickness. This site needs to be balanced and fair in American critical subjects. The American critical part of the discussion needs to be secondary to energy issues. Instead for 5 long years you anti-American clowns have tried to turn this into Peak oil and the promotion of anti-Americanism with a maple syrup flavor.

  49. Davy on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 5:36 am 

    There clean up the vomit from last night.

  50. Davy on Sat, 13th Jan 2018 5:46 am 

    CRAZY

    https://tinyurl.com/ydfd8ug8

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