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SeaGypsy wrote:What to say when people muddle up causation and effect,
Does a rigorously scientific argument alienate too many people to win a debate?
Keith_McClary wrote:Conservatives believe what their daddy and grandpa believed.
SeaGypsy wrote:No country in the world has taken serious steps to address the urgency of the situation.
Yet if you are of the hopefull side of the AGW debate, you may still be interested in personal mitigation and in lobbying friends/ family/ workplaces and governments to make serious steps towards change.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Keith_McClary wrote:Conservatives believe what their daddy and grandpa believed.
For the rich conservatives (i.e. WSJ editorial page crowd), I think it's worse than that. I think that MANY of those folks aren't as stupid as they pretend to be, nor as ill-informed about the realities of science.
I think the bulk of those folks know the truth about AGW and how we're ruining the planet, but THEY DON'T CARE. Why? Because they don't want ANYTHING to interfere with their main agenda -- the fastest economic grwoth (and therefore profits for them and their peers) possible.
They figure they'll be dead by the time the serious consequences affect the wealthy, so the hell with everyone else.
Since these people hold virtually all the real sources of power in society, and the "common man" is totally disorganized and mostly fighting amongst themselves over trivia or trinkets -- nothing really stands in the way of the rich conservative's agenda (plunder to the max).
The funniest Fruedian slip I have seen here, perhaps ever.vtsnowedin wrote:[
This type of angry demonetization of the rich is off the mark. I am not rich by any means but I think indulging in such delusions is dangerous to us all.
I wouldn't go that far. The European countries have done quite a bit (they're even doing cap and trade, though I don't agree with that). The US has done less but it could be worse -- we have a decent environmental record, certainly better than anyone else in the Americas other than Canada, and all of Asia other than Japan and some of the smaller countries
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