onlooker wrote:However, the problem is what about jobs and the concomitant need to travel to work in car.
onlooker wrote:transitioning to renewable sources itself requires much fossil fuel use
onlooker wrote:A substantive loss of net power would severely cripple the US economy and other first world economies.
Of all the dilemmas surrounding fossil fuel depletion, this one seems like one of the least significant. People can live closer to work, telecommute, carpool, take public transportation, and electric vehicles can run on whatever non-fossil power source we might have. It's manageable.
onlooker wrote:DybbuckOf all the dilemmas surrounding fossil fuel depletion, this one seems like one of the least significant. People can live closer to work, telecommute, carpool, take public transportation, and electric vehicles can run on whatever non-fossil power source we might have. It's manageable.
I use to also think similar to you about this sector of the economy. However, I will distill your points to shed some doubt to this perception. First people living close to work is actually not very feasible, in so much as people cannot just find easily the "right" job near where they live nor move closer to their job. Second telecommuting is only appropriate for a limited amount of jobs. Third carpool, well this is promising but it would entail many making sacrifices and much coordination on behalf of govt. and the private sector. Fourth, public transportation is actually not so common as people would think at least here in US. I know this because I live in NY area and once thought much of country was like here, NOT the case. Finally electric vehicles lead well into the second major point about renewables, creating a whole new fleet of EV would be daunting in terms of fossil fuels is how we construct cars. Same with windmills and solar panels. Finally, you echo my point that this transition should have been done with time gradually. At this point the deviation of fossil fuels from the normal uses to creating a renewable infrastructure would in itself create serious disturbances in the economy. See the Hirsh Report which is a good primer on all this. Having said all that I still think we should transition as much as possible anything to stop burning FF and feeding the Global Warming monster.
StarvingLion wrote:I especially like this one where they show the solar refinery:
https://mitei.mit.edu/system/files/Sola ... r_0805.pdf
StarvingLion wrote:Let me boil it down to this:
Semiconductors (solar pv cells) = Marxism
Combustion = Capitalism
StarvingLion wrote:All these universities produce are STUPID PEOPLE.
ennui2 wrote:StarvingLion wrote:All these universities produce are STUPID PEOPLE.
And what's your own academic credentials?
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