Pops wrote:Newfie wrote:"Reality Distortion Field". You make that up? It's good.
Just trying to judge reality, to recognize it, can be a challange.
Naw, "Reality Distortion Field" is what they said Steve Jobs had. The 'doers' at Apple would say, "we can't", and he's say, "do it", and they were amazed that they could.
I think the more a person repeats the mantra, "I'm objective", "I'm a moderate", "I'm independent" "I'm a realist"; the more they convince themselves their "mind map" is the true picture and inevitably the less objective they become. If I'm not convinced we're all going to die except on alternate Tuesdays and Thursdays, am I less in touch with reality than someone who never considers any other option?
LOL, it just dawns on me how silly it is to be arguing with you about the reality of collapse when I am the one who ran off to the hills (and will hopefully do it again).
I don't think its silly just for the reason it is not a clearly foreseeable event. If we knew then we could prepare. We don't know so we keep searching.
I think of it like the two of us sitting in the front seat of a car, very dense fog, but we have to press forward. I see something and brake....oh, nothing. You see something and holler out, maybe something? If we can see some tail lights ahead we can go with a little more confidence. But right now we are both peering out through the fog. We are sharing perceptions, knowing that either or both of us may be right, or wrong.
I don't think we are arguing over collapse. I get that we both think some sort of collapse will eventually occur. We are both seeking to know that form and timing of collapse as soon as possible.
Back to my original point, I don't think windmills are a good investment - except in special cases.
My bigger point is that most(sih) people are so far disconnected from reality as to have no idea a collapse is in the future.