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Re: Why All Oil Is Foreign

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 29 Jun 2012, 19:54:55

Graeme wrote:Plant, Are you going to vote for Obama?


It depends on what additional laws Obama decides to waive.

Its one thing for him to waive the immigration laws to benefit illegal aliens. How about him waiving some laws to help US citizens out.

If Obama panders hard enough, I'm willing to listen. :)
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Re: Why All Oil Is Foreign

Unread postby Graeme » Fri 29 Jun 2012, 19:59:42

Wow. And electric cars too?
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Re: Why All Oil Is Foreign

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 29 Jun 2012, 22:17:10

Sure.

Electric cars are great if you're in a situation where their extra cost and limited range aren't a problem. :)

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Re: Why All Oil Is Foreign

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 30 Jun 2012, 08:10:56

Plantagenet wrote:
Graeme wrote:Plant, Are you going to vote for Obama?


It depends on what additional laws Obama decides to waive.

Its one thing for him to waive the immigration laws to benefit illegal aliens. How about him waiving some laws to help US citizens out.

If Obama panders hard enough, I'm willing to listen. :)



You listen, but you don't hear........ Walls divide ppl planted. :cry:

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Re: Why All Oil Is Foreign

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 30 Jun 2012, 09:12:28

vision-master wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:
Graeme wrote:Plant, Are you going to vote for Obama?


It depends on what additional laws Obama decides to waive.

Its one thing for him to waive the immigration laws to benefit illegal aliens. How about him waiving some laws to help US citizens out.

If Obama panders hard enough, I'm willing to listen. :)



You listen, but you don't hear........ Walls divide ppl planted. :cry:

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BS Vision, you mind is far more closed than plant's. Just my humble opine as a fellow but lightly more objective stoner than you.
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Re: Why All Oil Is Foreign

Unread postby Graeme » Mon 02 Jul 2012, 18:11:46

Renewable advocates battle oil industry over energy policy

Big oil and natural gas companies may vastly outspend and outman the renewable fuels industry on Capitol Hill but the general gridlock in Washington gives advocates of wind, ethanol and other new-age sources the upper hand in the growing battle to overhaul the country's energy policy.

"This Congress…seems unable to make a national energy policy," said Bruce Babcock, an Iowa State University economist. "The renewable fuels have an advantage in that they are part of current law, and it's always easier to maintain current law than it is to change it."

Among the factors making a major shift of U.S. energy policy difficult are the upcoming elections, the inability of lawmakers to reach a consensus on how to change it, and the high costs necessary to expand access to fuels such as natural gas for consumers at U.S. filling stations.

That hasn't stopped the oil industry from aggressively wooing Congressional lawmakers on hot-button issues, including lobbying against renewable fuels.
Last year alone ConocoPhillips, Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon Mobil, Chevron and the American Petroleum Institute, the trade group that represents these energy giants, used $66.2 million for lobbying efforts, nearly 44% of the $150 million total spent by the oil and gas industry, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics. Collectively, nearly 800 lobbyists worked on behalf of oil and gas interests in 2011.

The total towers over the $53 million spent by what the center classifies as the "miscellaneous energy" industry — which counts the Renewable Fuels Association, Growth Energy and the American Wind Energy Association as its members. The grouping includes 751 lobbyists.

Despite the huge financial disadvantage, renewable fuels groups remain unconvinced that the public relations push by the deep pockets of the fossil fuel industry will be enough to get lawmakers in Washington to act.


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