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When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby M_B_S » Thu 07 Sep 2017, 12:17:27

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The respondents who cited environmental issues also mentioned concerns about struggles to provide food and water to a growing population, and the level of opposition to genetically-modified products, given their potential to boost agricultural output.
Global warming was also frequently cited, with an emphasis placed on the need to make renewable energy solutions affordable and cost-effective to encourage widescale uptake.



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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby Cliffhanger1983 » Thu 07 Sep 2017, 14:05:19

Just wait till the massive worldwide oil shortages hit the world economy in a few years. People will turn into animals.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby M_B_S » Thu 07 Sep 2017, 14:17:31

Cliffhanger1983 wrote:Just wait till the massive worldwide oil shortages hit the world economy in a few years. People will turn into animals.



Your are wrong we are animals.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby EdwinSm » Sat 09 Sep 2017, 00:16:24

There where few deaths form Harvey, and the very death toll in the islands from Irma (despite massive damage), and the lowish death toll from the 8.1 earthquake in Mexico, it looks as if a mass die off will not occur from just a natural disaster...rather the die off will be more likely if relief aid cannot be got to the locations after a disaster. This will be more of a localised die off and so might not meet the criteria for a worldwide dieoff.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby M_B_S » Sat 09 Sep 2017, 01:16:41

EdwinSm wrote:There where few deaths form Harvey, and the very death toll in the islands from Irma (despite massive damage), and the lowish death toll from the 8.1 earthquake in Mexico, it looks as if a mass die off will not occur from just a natural disaster...rather the die off will be more likely if relief aid cannot be got to the locations after a disaster. This will be more of a localised die off and so might not meet the criteria for a worldwide dieoff.



It is clear (to me) that you do not or will not understand whats written here in this thread.

Or you are laying a smoke bombs like a troll throwing shit

Dont fool Peak Oiler its not possible per definition.

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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby EdwinSm » Sat 09 Sep 2017, 05:22:42

I am not denying the idea of a die off, and humans are in for a bad time. But the thread title is about WHEN it will occur, and I have been trying to deal with that in my post. [ie the last one was saying that it will likely start when society is no longer able to supply relief aid after a disaster].

I am sorry if relating to the subject of the title of the thread makes me a troll in your eyes. :roll:

There is also the whole problem of time scale. One of the classic images of Die Off is Easter Island, and he reading that I have done on that seems to indicate that it happened over a 100 or so years - which is hardly a classic quick Die Off (like the Reindeer on St Matthew's Island who mostly died in one winter).



ps. The title of the first post in the first thread reads "The post peak mass death..." http://peakoil.com/forums/when-will-the-mass-dieoff-begin-pt-1-merged-t67590.html?hilit=When%20will%20the%20mass%20die%20off.. So it seems that the thread has wondered from its original posting, which was posted in 2004 to only being allowed to discuss a book published a decade later (in 2014). :oops: So this is a problem arising from merging different threads [like Fast Crash was merged with Flash Crash, and Irma merged with the general Cyclone, Hurricane thread].

pps. Thanks to the moderators for trying to tidy things up, even if does cause some misunderstanding along the way.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Sat 09 Sep 2017, 07:24:04

Can we just let communists and socialists die and preserve capitalists and God-fearing Christians? Am I asking too much here?
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 07:08:35

Glad to see you're still posting, cog.

Any chance you could explain to us now what model gave you perfect confidence that Irma would never make landfall in the US? :)
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 07:41:49

I used the European model when this hurricane first formed, that showed it going out into the Atlantic. The other models showed exactly the same thing. But I should have known better than to trust organizations like NOAA and NHC that believe in climate change and instead just thrown a dart at a US map. I would have been as accurate.

You can't model weather and you can't model climate change except in the very short term.

I give pstarr credit here for at least one thing. He might be a hippie or a commie, :-D , but he has rejected climate change doom in favor of peak oil doom. Which means he does understand how oil is wrapped up into the very fabric of how we function as an industrialized civilization. He is probably wrong about his embrace of the ETP model but he isn't wrong about how oil is essential for a modern society.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby Cliffhanger1983 » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 09:48:15

Cog is as dumb as they come. I hope he is around in a few years when BAU goes down. He deserves to suffer!
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 09:59:15

Cliffhanger1983 wrote:Cog is as dumb as they come. I hope he is around in a few years when BAU goes down. He deserves to suffer!


Noticed something about doomers as a group. They like to see people suffer. I wonder why that might be the case. Is it because their life is a wreck and they have a desire to equalize the suffering on those who they think "deserve it"? Schadenfreude? Please go be poor somewhere else. Doomers love the thought of billions dying, but the more successful in life is at the top of their list.

From my time in the doomer world, they seem to have a certain amount of glee when they consider the bankers, CEO's, or basically anyone successful and rich being hauled to the gallows or camps. Jealousy is a funny thing.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby Cliffhanger1983 » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 10:14:33

Cog wrote:
Cliffhanger1983 wrote:Cog is as dumb as they come. I hope he is around in a few years when BAU goes down. He deserves to suffer!


Noticed something about doomers as a group. They like to see people suffer. I wonder why that might be the case. Is it because their life is a wreck and they have a desire to equalize the suffering on those who they think "deserve it"? Schadenfreude? Please go be poor somewhere else. Doomers love the thought of billions dying, but the more successful in life is at the top of their list.

From my time in the doomer world, they seem to have a certain amount of glee when they consider the bankers, CEO's, or basically anyone successful and rich being hauled to the gallows or camps. Jealousy is a funny thing.



The only people I wish to see die are deniers! And when the oil shortages come its game over.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby GHung » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 10:16:12

"Jealousy is a funny thing."

Disgust for greed and jealousy aren't the same thing, but I'm not surprised you don't know the difference.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 12:10:38

There are those who find pleasure in the simple things, watching a sunset, talking a walk, or watching the stars at night. There are those who want to maximize their riches by any legal means available to them. The acquisition of wealth is what makes them happy. Who are you to judge which is superior? How about live your own life and leave others alone to do want they want to do.

The hubris is in thinking your way of life is somehow more noteworthy and valuable to anyone else's, is why doomeristic thinking is so roundly ridiculed. Want to live in a mud hut or out in the forest? No one is stopping you. Turn off the electrical breakers, leave your apartment or home and go do it. Or move to a third world country and break ships for 12 hours a day.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby Cliffhanger1983 » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 12:24:49

Cog wrote:There are those who find pleasure in the simple things, watching a sunset, talking a walk, or watching the stars at night. There are those who want to maximize their riches by any legal means available to them. The acquisition of wealth is what makes them happy. Who are you to judge which is superior? How about live your own life and leave others alone to do want they want to do.

The hubris is in thinking your way of life is somehow more noteworthy and valuable to anyone else's, is why doomeristic thinking is so roundly ridiculed. Want to live in a mud hut or out in the forest? No one is stopping you. Turn off the electrical breakers, leave your apartment or home and go do it. Or move to a third world country and break ships for 12 hours a day.


Cog. Remember me when the collapse happens in a few years!
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 12:28:25

Why would I possibly remember you cliffhanger? You are as irrelevant to me as Lady Gaga or the homeless guy living under the overpass.
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 12:52:36

Not that it matters, but just to note to others...when cog above claims that the European models were showing it going out to sea and that's why he said Irma wouldn't hit the US, he is lying. At the time he said nearly every strand of every 'spaghetti' graph showed Irma hitting the CONUS somewhere.

But they anyone who has seen this character and his little pranks around here should not be surprised at just one more bald faced lie. Maybe c is in some kind of competition with the POTUS for most bald-faced lies in a week or something? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 16:05:27

dohboi wrote:Not that it matters, but just to note to others...when cog above claims that the European models were showing it going out to sea and that's why he said Irma wouldn't hit the US, he is lying. At the time he said nearly every strand of every 'spaghetti' graph showed Irma hitting the CONUS somewhere.

But they anyone who has seen this character and his little pranks around here should not be surprised at just one more bald faced lie. Maybe c is in some kind of competition with the POTUS for most bald-faced lies in a week or something? :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh really? That's funny, some of the spaghetti models from a while back shows it missing the USA entirely. Cheers!

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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby GHung » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 16:12:08

Gosh,,, which one is the European model?
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Re: When will the mass dieoff begin? Pt. 3

Unread postby baha » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 17:29:36

OK, who should we make suffer?

I don't like most CEOs or bankers either, but it's not their money it's their attitude. And I don't like to stereotype but everyone knows those types that think they are better than everyone else. They don't think they should be bothered by the 'little people'. Those are the ones I want to suffer. This little person would like to sit on their chest :)

Pet Peeve again - You're driving down the interstate and from miles away you see someone riding in the left lane for no reason. When I come up behind someone like that I have to decide whether to wait them out and hope they move or go around them if I can. I base that decision on the car they drive...If it costs more than about $50k, chances are they're not moving. They will not be bothered by the little people. So I just go around on the right peacefully and shake my head.

The self-centered inconsiderate people in this world need to suffer. :twisted:
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