Cog wrote:Russian apologists seem to be the mantra here.
Plantagenet wrote:The Dutch Report is out. It shows that MH17 was downed by a Russian missile fired from rebel-held territory.
dutch-report-will-say-what-downed-mh17
But the findings left unresolved the central question of responsibility, which became even murkier this week with conflicting reports from the missile's manufacturer.
radon1 wrote:the Dutch report does not show that the missile was fired from the rebel held territory.
Plantagenet wrote:
"The Dutch Safety Board said the plane was brought down by a missile fired from eastern Ukraine. Russia-backed separatists controlled that territory at the time. All 298 people aboard died."
Cog wrote:Russian apologists seem to be the mantra here.
pstarr wrote:No it is not a white stripe. Is is a stop sign post.
There's quite a few Right Sector putsch apologists.Cog wrote:Russian apologists seem to be the mantra here.
Cog wrote:Russian apologists seem to be the mantra here.
sjn wrote:It's interesting that the manufacturer of the BUK system (Almaz-Antey) claims the shrapnel they were asked to identify belonged to a 9M38M1 BUK-M1 whilst the Dutch report says it was 9N314M. Critical point raised by Almaz-Antey in June (BBC News link) is that this would have been an older model no longer used by the Russian army but still in service in Ukraine. (edit: Almaz-Antey are apparently unhappy that their report on the shrapnel was ignored by the investigation)
Almaz-Antey today responded to the report:From BBC live reporting wrote:Meanwhile the Russian state-sponsored television network, Russia Today, continues to release more details on the report by Russian missile manufacturers Almaz-Antey, contesting the findings of the Dutch report. This tweet shows an experiment conducted by the company with BUK missiles to prove their findings.
twitter: https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/653877872373841920
It's interesting that the manufacturer of the BUK system (Almaz-Antey) claims the shrapnel they were asked to identify belonged to a 9M38M1 BUK-M1 whilst the Dutch report says it was 9N314M
Donald Trump says Russia isn't to blame for MH17, despite evidence
Washington (CNN)Donald Trump doesn't believe there is enough evidence to blame pro-Russian separatists for last year's downing of a commercial airliner over Ukraine -- despite the fact that the U.S. intelligence community believes "with confidence" that pro-Russian separatists shot it down.
"They say it wasn't them," he replied. "It may have been their weapon, but they didn't use it, they didn't fire it, they even said the other side fired it to blame them. I mean to be honest with you, you'll probably never know for sure."
Trump later said the culprit was "probably" Russia and pro-Russian fighters, but he said the U.S. needs to focus on its own problems right now and not "get involved" in overseas conflicts, even one as "horrible" as this.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/14/politics/donald-trump-mh17-plane-russians/
Russian mayor invites Donald Trump to Crimea
At least one Russian official is eager to extend an olive branch to an American -- the catch is that it's being proffered not to President Obama but to his would-be successor, Donald Trump.
The mayor of Yalta, the historic seaside city on the Crimean coast, has welcomed Trump's entry into the U.S presidential race. In a message posted on the city's official Web site, Mayor Andrey Rostenko hailed Trump as "an extraordinary person."
"We are following the elections process in your country with great interest," Rostenko wrote, addressing Trump, in a translation published by RT. "We like your election program and we like you as an extraordinary person."
Despite the climate of antipathy in the United States toward Russia and President Vladimir Putin, Rostenko sees in Trump an American willing to mend ties with the Kremlin. Trump has intimated that Putin is a man with whom he can do business, has celebrated Russia's bombing campaign in Syria and has framed the current tensions between Russia and the United States as a symptom of Obama's weakness.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/10/08/russian-mayor-invites-donald-trump-to-crimea/
tita wrote:Now, they want further investigation to determine the exact location of the launch of the missile, pretending the report is politically biased. There is a lot at stakes, with powerful media backing.
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