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Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby M_B_S » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 08:35:56

Jose is real and counting 10...9....8....7 ...and it is looking where his sister is hiding....

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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby donstewart » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 09:12:10

Jose and the European Model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jpAA_wW5bs

Watch to the end of the short video. Notice how the announcer says that the divergence between the European Model and the pack should not be discounted because the European Model performed the best on Irma. If The European Model turns out to be right for Jose, it could spell more trouble in Florida and the Gulf.

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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 12:03:04

Now things seem to have swung mostly north, with European models tracking Jose from New England to Newfoundland. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/jose- ... ast-threat
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby vox_mundi » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 12:23:44

He's a doomer too ...

Humanity Will 'Go Down' If Climate Change Is Not Addressed, Says Pope

ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (Reuters, AFP) - Pope Francis said the recent spate of hurricanes should prompt people to understand that humanity will "go down" if it does not address climate change and history will judge those who deny the science.

"If we don't turn back, we will go down," Pope Francis told reporters on Sunday (Sept 10) on a plane returning from Colombia to the Vatican City. Francis strongly backed the 2015 Paris agreement on reducing global warming, from which the United States withdrew this year.

Pope Francis spoke as hurricane Irma pounded central Florida as it carved through the state with high winds, storm surges and torrential rains that left millions without power, ripped roofs off homes and flooded city streets.

Pope Francis was asked about recent hurricanes, including Irma and Harvey, and if political leaders who do not want to work with other countries to stem global warming should be held morally responsible for future effects on the planet.

"You can see the effects of climate change and scientists have clearly said what path we have to follow," he said, referring to a consensus by scientists that global warming is caused by human activity such as fossil fuels.

"All of us have a responsibility, all of us, small or large, a moral responsibility. We have to take it seriously. We can't joke about it," he said. "Each person has their own. Even politicians have their own."

"If someone is doubtful that this is true, they should ask scientists. They are very clear. These are not opinions made on the fly. They are very clear. Then each person can decide and history will judge the decisions," he said.

... Mr Trump withdrew from the Paris agreement shortly after visiting the Vatican in May. The Vatican had urged him to stay in the accord.
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 12:48:09

vox_mundi wrote:He's a doomer too ...

Humanity Will 'Go Down' If Climate Change Is Not Addressed, Says Pope
"If someone is doubtful that this is true, they should ask scientists. They are very clear. These are not opinions made on the fly. They are very clear. Then each person can decide and history will judge the decisions," he said.

... Mr Trump withdrew from the Paris agreement shortly after visiting the Vatican in May. The Vatican had urged him to stay in the accord.


Scientists are't quite as clear cut on this as the Pope imagines.

Scientists are split on the Paris Accords---some think it is useful while others note that it calls for INCREASES in CO2 emissions and so was a colossal waste of time and an unfortunate diversion from the hard work of getting countries to REDUCE their CO2 emissions.

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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 12:54:37

Meanwhile, Jose is looping around and models show it on a path to hit the east coast.

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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby M_B_S » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 13:42:34

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Maybe our readers want to know whats going on here on earth @ 410 ppm CO2 and 1850 ppb CH4

Nobody else is better to give you a useful lecture than Sir Dr. James Lovelock

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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 18:28:37

dohboi wrote:Now things seem to have swung mostly north, with European models tracking Jose from New England to Newfoundland. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/jose- ... ast-threat


Greeeeat! I might the one guy here to be impacted by BOTH storms! Big boat seems to have survived Irma in FL. Now Wednesday we are leaving our cabin to take our small boat back to her winter quarters. We should be done befor Jose hits the Rock. But I'll have to watch.
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 11 Sep 2017, 21:48:05

Yeah, I was obviously thinking about you when I wrote that. Hope it takes a different course for your sake.
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby M_B_S » Tue 12 Sep 2017, 00:59:08

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These before-and-after-Irma shots reveal a browning of the landscape across the northern Leeward Islands. The color change can be produced by vegetation being ripped from trees, as well as by salt-water spray gradually drying out and browning leaves that are still on trees. Image credit: NASA Earth Observatory....
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IRMA hits with the energy of millions of Hiroshima bombs (It "explodes energy" when it hits land => expanding)
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The lights went out in Florida



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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby M_B_S » Tue 12 Sep 2017, 07:09:35

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JOSE is a FREAK Hurricane 8O :shock: :?
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby Newfie » Tue 12 Sep 2017, 08:24:34

Obviously, or maybe not from watching some comments on and about TV, hurricanes are a common storm/weather pattern. Just like blizzards and droughts.

One feature of hurricanes, which has existed as long as we have been able to track them, is that they are unpredictable. Statistically they have a general track. However, just like humans, you get the odd one and there is no telling what crazy shit that guy will do!

So all the hyperbole about these storms is funny. It just goes to show how detached we have become from Nature. We get cozy in our little man made caves, watching our man made virtual reality and Nature comes by, uninvited, and let's herself in. Imagine that, how rude!

Ther are 2 differences in there modern storms.
Fisrt, they have some more energy because of the warmer water temperatures. Second, they do more damage because there is vastly more stuff to damage and because humans have interfered with the natural drainage flow.

So the greatest threat is not from the storms, it's from the people who make colossially stupid planning decisions forgetting the Nature exists and will occasionally reassert itself.
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 12 Sep 2017, 08:47:49

So the greatest threat is not from the storms, it's from the people who make colossially stupid planning decisions forgetting the Nature exists and will occasionally reassert itself-----

Absolutely, I was commenting about how in the east coast of Florida, development and construction had eradicated those natural barriers that Nature had, the wetlands/marshes. This was from an interview a couple days ago. This is also true on a much larger scale with the way forests have been cut down allowing for much worse flooding.
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 12 Sep 2017, 08:51:33

According to the NHC, Jose has weakened and is taking a more easterly course. It may peter out in the Atlantic altogether. Hopefully.
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby Cog » Tue 12 Sep 2017, 09:55:57

onlooker wrote:According to the NHC, Jose has weakened and is taking a more easterly course. It may peter out in the Atlantic altogether. Hopefully.


Yeah we don't need any more drama right now.
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby onlooker » Tue 12 Sep 2017, 10:00:20

Cog wrote:
onlooker wrote:According to the NHC, Jose has weakened and is taking a more easterly course. It may peter out in the Atlantic altogether. Hopefully.


Yeah we don't need any more drama right now.

amen to that :-D
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby radon1 » Tue 12 Sep 2017, 10:50:39

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Re: Hurricane Katia

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Tue 12 Sep 2017, 14:37:15

This should finish the thread:

"As Mexican authorities rushed supplies and help to the regions most battered by the earthquake, Hurricane Katia struck the east coast of Mexico early Saturday as a Category 1 storm. Luis Felipe Puente, head of Mexico's national emergency services agency, said two people were killed by the hurricane, which roared ashore in Veracruz state, pelting the region with intense rains and winds.

The hurricane quickly lost strength after hitting land and was downgraded to a tropical storm. The U.S. National Hurricane Center said the storm’s maximum sustained winds had dropped Saturday morning to about 35 mph. Still, the hurricane center predicted the storm could bring three to six inches of additional rain to a region with a history of flooding and deadly mudslides.
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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby M_B_S » Wed 13 Sep 2017, 02:35:55

Florida lights before Irma
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After Irma


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Re: Cyclone/Hurricane/Typhoon Season 2017 Pt. 2

Unread postby Whitefang » Wed 13 Sep 2017, 04:34:52

Wow, what a knockout MBS!

Thanks for posting and keep us informed on all those worldly affairs, amazing still that we can have a frontrow even realtime online seat to watch events as they happen, worldwide.
Absolutely incredible, before that telly you had to wait for the morning paper, rely on others people opinion and information.

Lights out for southeast Florida.
Is Miami back online?
From that pic it looks like most of the capital went down.

If these things happen every few years or so, people will move from the coast.
Gohsttown swampy Florida, New Orléans, Houston, NYC.
Abrupt SLR will make this a certainty somewhere this century.
Same thing for my lowlands, first fall storm today and they are warning it will be stonger than normal for Climate Change doing what it does.
Code orange.

https://nltimes.nl/2017/09/13/autumn-st ... er-warning

"Danger through strong winds. Risk of falling trees and loose branches. Take measures to prevent damage or injury. Dangerous situations for traffic and water sports. Be prepared when traveling and take longer ravel times into account. Follow weather reports and warnings", the meteorological institute warns.
Weerplaza also warned that trees may blow over more easily than usual. "Because of the rainfall of recent days, the soil is looser than normal", Michiel Severin of Weerplaza said

"We advise against taking the road in the coastal provinces and Flevoland with empty trucks, trailers or caravans", Dutch public works department Rijkswaterstaat warned, according to NU.nl. During a storm in February this year, empty trucks blowing over on the road caused a lot of trouble. The Rijkswaterstaat calls on all road users to keep an eye on weather and traffic reports



No loot for a luxery car, bycicle with a flat tire so walking to work with storm and rain, feels good to be outdoors again!
My body likes it and my mind gets quiet.
Work, trucking gets pretty risky though.....racing bread from A to B, Louvain to Liege, 15 adresses a night/morning.
Hardly any weight on my rear ax, slippery when wet.
Need those handy wintertires before the first freak hail or snowstorm hits.

I'd love to keep the truck, being a prepper and best I have ever driven, gets 4 km out of a liter diesel, around 10 mpg, amazing for a full size truck/trailer.
Need other income/work and move people out of town as a hobby.
Writing on sites like kindle publishing is an option.

Back to base,

Good Jose has no further plans for the US, time to recover and regroup.
Barely missed St.Maarten.

https://nltimes.nl/2017/09/12/destructi ... dutch-king

Of the three Dutch islands affected by Hurricane Irma, Sint Maarten sustained most of the damage. About 70 percent of the homes on the island were seriously damaged or collapsed, according to NU.nl. The water- and power supply also sustained damage and communication with the island is still difficult.

Dutch military ships and aircraft deliver food, water and other necessities to Sint Maarten on a daily basis. The Red Cross opened Giro 5125 to raise funds for emergency relief for the affected islands. The people of the Netherlands already donated over 1.5 million euros to the victims of the devastating hurricane. On Friday the red cross and Dutch broadcasters are holding a national fund raising action for Hurricane Irma victims.

The Ministry of Home Affairs and Kingdom Relations sent teams of experts to Sint Maarten, Saba and Sint Eustatius to assess the damages on the three islands and map exactly what is necessary for long-term reconstruction. Once these assessments
are in, the government will draw up a reconstruction plan.
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