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The Geoengineering Thread Pt. 2

Re: The Geoengineering Thread Pt. 2

Unread postby dissident » Sat 18 Jun 2016, 12:56:45

Injecting 10 million tons of SO2 at 30 km (it will not be effective at 20 km) every year is not technologically feasible.

1) Building towers this high is absurd.

2) No aircraft can cruise at 30 km (22 km is the ceiling and only U2 type aircraft can do it). I have actually seen seminars where aircraft were being proposed; these people clearly had no clue about stratospheric transport.

3) sending in rockets or firing shells from massive guns on the surface is just insane. The chemical impact from propellant release and any explosive dispersion in the stratosphere would be huge.

Geoengineering is technotopian magical thinking.
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Re: The Geoengineering Thread Pt. 2

Unread postby onlooker » Sun 29 Jan 2017, 18:23:57

So, I find this article detailing different possibilities for Geoengineering. I hope you guys can comment as this is looking like maybe the only way left to keep the climate system from becoming totally hostile to most life currently on Earth. In particular Tanada and Dissident what do you think of "Another approach is suggested by Nualgi.com who propose to add iron and other trace metals/micro nutrients to the water in order to stimulate growth of a specific type of phytoplankton called diatom algae, which through photosynthesis absorb carbon dioxide in the water and add oxygen. The oxygen is then used by methanotroph bacteria to oxidize methane. "
Here is link to full article http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/oxyge ... rctic.html
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Re: The Geoengineering Thread Pt. 2

Unread postby JV153 » Mon 30 Jan 2017, 00:44:00

onlooker wrote:So, I find this article detailing different possibilities for Geoengineering. I hope you guys can comment as this is looking like maybe the only way left to keep the climate system from becoming totally hostile to most life currently on Earth. In particular Tanada and Dissident what do you think of "Another approach is suggested by Nualgi.com who propose to add iron and other trace metals/micro nutrients to the water in order to stimulate growth of a specific type of phytoplankton called diatom algae, which through photosynthesis absorb carbon dioxide in the water and add oxygen. The oxygen is then used by methanotroph bacteria to oxidize methane. "
Here is link to full article http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/oxyge ... rctic.html


Might work.. but how you prevent it from sucking up all the CO2, which might be a problem, for obvious reasons.
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Re: The Geoengineering Thread Pt. 2

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 13 Feb 2017, 06:45:07

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... are_btn_fb
Could a £400bn plan to refreeze the Arctic before the ice melts really work?
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Re: The Geoengineering Thread Pt. 2

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 13 Feb 2017, 09:20:24

onlooker wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/12/plan-to-refreeze-arctic-before-ice-goes-for-good-climate-change?CMP=share_btn_fb
Could a £400bn plan to refreeze the Arctic before the ice melts really work?



That plan would be an unmitigated disaster. The water below the ice is above freezing, so pumping it out onto the existing ice means it would transfer about half of that energy to the existing ice and the other half to the atmosphere. Given the fact that ice accumulates energy faster than water releases it this plan would not thicken the ice, quite the opposite in fact. The only remotely possible way for this to work would be to desalinate the water into high purity fresh water and then chill it under high pressure. The last step would be spraying it out as a super cooled fluid a few meters above the ice so it will crystallize before reaching the ice floating on the surface. That is an enormously more complicated plan and needless to say it would also cost many times the proposed cost to actually build and operate such a system. We can't even get people to build desalination systems on the California coast when they have frequent droughts, what do you think the odds are of getting them to build such an insane number on the Siberian/Alaska/Canada/Greenland coast? No point in building them in Scandinavia, the gulf stream keeps ice away from that coast.
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Re: The Geoengineering Thread Pt. 2

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 13 Feb 2017, 09:32:51

Thanks T. on second thought maybe no thanks haha
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Re: The Geoengineering Thread Pt. 2

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sun 19 Feb 2017, 19:43:11

I saw this interesting and alarming interview today about how chemtrail spraying has been intensified. The fellow being interviewed, Dane Washington, knows his stuff, clearly he is not a tinfoil hat nut, and it is worrisome about the quantities of poisons being dumped into the air right now in order to deflect sunlight and accomplish SRM.

"We are facing converging cataclysms. When people focus on jobs, economy and retirement, how much will any of that matter if we have a planet that doesn’t support life? If we lose our habitat and every breath we take is full of toxic heavy metal that is making us sicker and dumber by the day . . . . And my only goal is to bring this issue to light and to a halt. We know we have major collusion between all the major powers in the world on this issue. The single biggest leap we can take in the right direction is to expose and stop weather engineering which is weather warfare, and stop these programs (commonly known as chemtrails) in their tracks.” "


https://youtu.be/oKItH69Jj2M?t=41s

He also has a website devoted to stop the spraying which has numerous interesting videos, articles and commentary:

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
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