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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby dissident » Tue 27 Jun 2017, 15:38:59

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Looks like Hersch's report hit a sensitive spot. The deep state wankers have just greenlighted their jihadi proxies to stage another false flag chemical atrocity.

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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Cog » Tue 27 Jun 2017, 17:58:14

Actually by posting this document the administration is warning Syria not to proceed with its plan. That is a prudent step to deescalate the situation and puts Assad on notice that what happens next is totally on his head.

General Mattis is a man of impeccable character and the insinuation he would engage in false flag operations is without merit.
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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby sparky » Tue 27 Jun 2017, 19:38:45

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actually if there is no attack , Washington will claim they stopped it .
this is a bit like claiming that a scarecrow in a bikini stop hippopotamus falling from the sky

Iran claim the US are concerned with Daesh being whipped out and will have to step in to help them
under some pretext
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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Cog » Tue 27 Jun 2017, 21:09:01

Iran claims a lot of things. Most of them ridiculously false. Their Friday "Death to America" marches do not impress me.
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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby AgentR11 » Tue 27 Jun 2017, 23:05:02

Cog wrote:Actually by posting this document the administration is warning Syria not to proceed with its plan. That is a prudent step to deescalate the situation and puts Assad on notice that what happens next is totally on his head.


Assad didn't before, won't in the future. Chemical weapons don't yield the type of results he needs. Russians dropping bombs, otoh, does yield those results, and the Russians will happily do that for decades to come. Its like having your own, continuous live fire training drill to catch up on a couple decades of inaction.

Ours is all fluff when you get down to it. We didn't retaliate in a meaningful or significant way last time, and we won't any time in the future. If I were to guess on most likely truth; its one set of islamists using chemical weapons against an opposing set of islamists; and sometimes the user of said weapons happens to be a group we in the West half-heartedly support. They just don't obey very well. We would like to avoid being tarred with their stupidity.

By wasting some missiles on useless junk that Assad holds, we look like we're doing something, but all we're really doing is playing a misdirect hand so that we don't have to directly deny or accept blame for the use of chemical weapons.
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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby M_B_S » Fri 07 Jul 2017, 13:09:12

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For over 2 hours, Trump and Putin talked alleged election meddling, Syria, North Korea
Trump to Putin: 'It's an honor to be with you'
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/07/polit ... index.html
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Too Great Leader will solve problems for sure.

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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Sat 22 Jul 2017, 13:14:01

A newfound memo from Kenneth W. Starr’s independent counsel investigation into President Bill Clinton sheds fresh light on a constitutional puzzle that is taking on mounting significance amid the Trump-Russia inquiry: Can a sitting president be indicted?

The 56-page memo, locked in the National Archives for nearly two decades and obtained by The New York Times under the Freedom of Information Act, amounts to the most thorough government-commissioned analysis rejecting a generally held view that presidents are immune from prosecution while in office.

“It is proper, constitutional, and legal for a federal grand jury to indict a sitting president for serious criminal acts that are not part of, and are contrary to, the president’s official duties.”

In 1974, the Watergate special counsel, Leon Jaworski, had also received a memo from his staff saying he could indict the president, in that instance Richard M. Nixon, while he was in office, and later made that case in a court brief. Those documents, however, explore the topic significantly less extensively than the Starr office memo.

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Trump’s legal team recently suffered a shakeup when his senior counsel in the Russia probe bailed on him. The Donald replaced Marc Kasowitz with white collar criminal lawyer John Dowd after reports surfaced that Deutsche Bank has agreed to hand over records related to their dealings with Donald Trump — worrisome, as they rather suspiciously loaned Trump more than a billion dollars when no one else was willing to touch him.

Dowd recently complained that any transactions related to Deutsche Bank are “beyond the mandate of the special counsel” and “unrelated to the election of 2016 or any alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia and most importantly, they are well beyond any statute of limitations imposed by the U.S. Code.’

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And what crimes might those be, Mr. Dowd, that would be subject to statute of limitations?
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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Sat 22 Jul 2017, 13:47:57

The Justice Department’s May 17 order to Mueller instructs him to investigate “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign” as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation,” suggesting a relatively broad mandate.

Agents are interested in dealings with the Bank of Cyprus, where Wilbur Ross served as vice chairman before he became commerce secretary. In addition, they are examining the efforts of Jared Kushner, the President’s son-in-law and senior aide, to secure financing for some of his family’s real-estate properties. The information about the investigation was provided by someone familiar with the developing inquiry but not authorized to speak publicly.

The roots of Mueller’s follow-the-money investigation lie partly in a wide-ranging money-laundering probe launched by then-Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara last year, according to the person.

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Gosh, would that be the Prevezon money-laundering case, who's lawyer was the same Russian Lawyer that met with Donald Jr., Kuschner and Manafort in Trump Tower?

The same case where Trump fired the US Attorney prosecuting the case, and AG Sessions settled for court costs 2 days before it was to go to trial?

The Russian lawyer who met Donald Trump Jr. after his father won the Republican nomination for the 2016 U.S. presidential election counted Russia's FSB security service among her clients for years, Russian court documents seen by Reuters show.

The FSB, successor to the Soviet-era KGB service, was headed by Vladimir Putin before he became Russian president.

Charles Grassley, Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has raised concerns about why Veselnitskaya gained entry into the United States. Veselnitskaya represented a Russian client accused by U.S. prosecutors of money laundering.

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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 22 Jul 2017, 16:48:11

Cid_Yama wrote:Charles Grassley, Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has raised concerns about why Veselnitskaya gained entry into the United States. Veselnitskaya represented a Russian client accused by U.S. prosecutors of money laundering.
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Thats easy.

Veselnitskaya gained admission to the US because the obama administration intervened at DHS and granted a "special visa" to Veselnitskaya when she couldn't get through the screening for a normal Visa because of her unsavory past.

The real question is: Why did the Obama administration intervene at the DHS to obtain a "SPECIAL VISA" for this specific Russian agent? This isn't done for everyone that is so suspicious that they can't get a normal VISA. Why did the Obama people do this for this suspicious Russian lawyer? At a minimum, it suggests some kind of contact on about Veselnitskaya and the Obama people concerning her VISA issues, with the Obama people doing the Russians a "favor." To use the term of the day, this shows there was collusion between the Obama admin and the Russians that, on the US side, involved the Obama people intervening at DHS to get this sleazy Russian lawyer/agent into the USA.

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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Sat 22 Jul 2017, 20:48:02

"...and puts Assad on notice that what happens next is totally on his head." Countless terrible atrocities have been happening in Syria for years that are already on his head. And yet very little has been done to make him pay for it to date. Let's see if crossing one more line in the sand has any meaningful negative impact on Assad.
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Re: Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Sun 23 Jul 2017, 21:12:55

Veselnitskaya was allowed to enter the United States ...so she could participate in a court case for a client.
The request was done “in concurrence” with the U.S. attorney's office in New York City, which was enforcing a civil asset forfeiture case against Prevezon Holdings, a company owned by Russian businessman Denis Katsyv, whom Veselnitskaya represented as a private attorney in their home country.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Paul Monteleoni was quoted in the court transcript as saying. “That's a discretionary act that the statute allows the attorney general to do in extraordinary circumstances. In this case, we did that so that Mr. Katsyv could testify. And we made the further accommodation of allowing his Russian lawyer into the country to assist.”


You know, the money laundering case, the one where Trump fired the prosecutor and Sessions settled for court costs, to keep that testimony from taking place.
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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 23 Jul 2017, 22:19:58

Cid_Yama wrote:
Veselnitskaya was allowed to enter the United States ...so she could participate in a court case for a client.


?????

The US is under no obligation to let suspicious Russian agents enter the country, even if they are lawyers. There are other lawyers both in Russia and in the US who could've done this legal work for the Russians who don't have Veselnitskaya's sleazy background.

No---this is something different. The Obama administration sleazily intervened for sleazy Veselnitskaya PERSONALLY. Sleazy AG Lynch intervened PERSONALLY to get her and her alone a special visa so she could come into the USA. This is clearly some kind of collusion between the Russians and the Obama administration, where sleazy Obama people were doing some kind of favor for sleazy Russians.

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Sleazy Obama people intervened to let in a sleazy Russian lawyer who did't qualify for a VISA. Thats collusion, plain and simple.

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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Sat 29 Jul 2017, 04:19:26

Blah, Blah, Blah. There is your problem right there. Drudge, bubble indoctrination at it's worse. GIGO.

In the meantime Trump has been on a roll.

Boy Scouts apologize, parents yank kids, as Trump turns Jamboree into 'Hitler Youth' rally.

President Trump, speaking before police officer association encourages 'Police Brutality' against suspects. Immediate pushback from law enforcement across the country.

Scaramoochi says he loves holding Trump's hand more than the French President. :lol:
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Re: Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Cog » Sat 29 Jul 2017, 04:42:18

Is Trump literally Hitler or just kind of like Hitler? This is a distinction that those who invoke Godwin's Law often fail to make.
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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 29 Jul 2017, 21:45:22

Cid_Yama wrote: Trump turns Jamboree into 'Hitler Youth' rally


Please don't start up with your nutty Hitler obsession again. I know its got a hold on you, but I'm rooting for you to stay in control.

When you feel those old urges coming on, fight against it, Cid. You did good for a while, but you're starting to lose it again. You've got to fight it, CId.

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Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby dissident » Sun 30 Jul 2017, 10:40:07

I find the term "Godwin's Law" to be often abused and a simple ploy designed to shut down debate. But some times it is actually a law: Hitler Jugend, Trump=Hitler, etc., is pure intellectual bankruptcy and automatic argument fail.
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Re: Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby pstarr » Sun 30 Jul 2017, 11:30:35

Sure, Trump is Hitler. He is being played by the American Dark State. Trump a useful tool. No different from Hitler, who ultimately worked for the German people. You don't expect evil to be very obvious, otherwise it would merely be buffoonery.
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Re: Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Mon 31 Jul 2017, 13:29:53

pstarr wrote:Sure, Trump is Hitler. He is being played by the American Dark State. Trump a useful tool. No different from Hitler, who ultimately worked for the German people. You don't expect evil to be very obvious, otherwise it would merely be buffoonery.

OTOH, if you want buffoonery, all you have to do is look to congress. And that applies to BOTH sides of the aisle.

And yet, somehow, aside from certain far left types, we generally don't have to call those folks "Hitler" to make the point that, for example, they're tools of the lobbyists.

Your jumping on the Hitler bandwagon is just another example of a non-credible post. Congrats.
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Re: Re: D. J. Trump Administration Geopolitics Pt. 2

Unread postby pstarr » Mon 31 Jul 2017, 13:59:46

Outcast_Searcher wrote:
pstarr wrote:Sure, Trump is Hitler. He is being played by the American Dark State. Trump a useful tool. No different from Hitler, who ultimately worked for the German people. You don't expect evil to be very obvious, otherwise it would merely be buffoonery.

OTOH, if you want buffoonery, all you have to do is look to congress. And that applies to BOTH sides of the aisle.

And yet, somehow, aside from certain far left types, we generally don't have to call those folks "Hitler" to make the point that, for example, they're tools of the lobbyists.

Your jumping on the Hitler bandwagon is just another example of a non-credible post. Congrats.

The Dark State is Hitler, not Hillary nor Trump. Individual politicians merely reflect consensus paradigm. Which is created, manipulated and maintain by the wealthy and powerful for their advantage through advertising and ownership of media. Just like in Germany.

There were no good Germans. There are no good Americans.
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