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The Fourth Industrial Revolution

Unread postby onlooker » Sun 24 Jan 2016, 11:37:07

http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2016/01 ... ution.html
I just wish to highlight this statement from the article " The World Economic Forum exuded confidence that its growth story would continue and the country would consolidate its position as the 'bright spot' of the world." Referring to India. Well now that China is encountering difficulties so they proclaim India as the bright spot as it is now the world's fastest growing economy. The World Economic Forum not surprisingly is about touting new technologies as a sign of a world which will be improving. Well we here know what a bogus claim that is. The story to emerge once again from this forum is how the rich and powerful entities and people beguile with optimistic messages even while dire threats materialize and grow ever more. The message one can take away is one of irrational confidence or exuberance.
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Re: The Fourth Industrial Revolution

Unread postby Paulo1 » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 10:45:20

I think India might be well served to be more concerned with water supplies, getting off coal, and growing food.
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Re: The Fourth Industrial Revolution

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 11:15:49

Paulo1 wrote:I think India might be well served to be more concerned with water supplies, getting off coal, and growing food.

Well the point is those governments and corporations that bestride the world would have all all think that with wonderful new technology Paulo all these things you listed and more can be obtained. Well, I say can you make water appear out of thin air or food or energy? NO.
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Re: The Fourth Industrial Revolution

Unread postby Cog » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 11:57:25

You going to feed 1.2 billion Indians without using fossil fuels? Good luck with that.
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Re: The Fourth Industrial Revolution

Unread postby curlyq3 » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 14:35:14

Our "Lifeboat Earth" ... we keep picking up more people along the way and our resources are finite ... the consequences will be very difficult.
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Re: The Fourth Industrial Revolution

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 16:42:10

Indians are very successful at adapting to western cultures. English being a first language, they rapidly overtake Chinese in engagement with people & workplaces in English speaking countries. Modi, the President, is a very interesting person & almost universally admired. The Hindu & Sikh cultures are adaptable & respectful, sharing many key ethos with westerners.

Working in food logistics I meet a lot of Indians & engage with them daily. They are often very funny, enjoyable to interact with. The language in this industry is intensely rough Aussie English. I can't help smiling when a Sikh despatch clerk uses the F word 3 times in his opening greeting, like a 5th generation working class Aussie.

I think India has some advantages over China. More diversity, more conscious engagement with others, much more sense of fun & presence in the moment.

None of this will save India from overshoot anymore than anything will save China from the same. But the global dynamics are interesting to observe.
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Re: The Fourth Industrial Revolution

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Mon 25 Jan 2016, 17:34:19

Paulo1 wrote:I think India might be well served to be more concerned with water supplies, getting off coal, and growing food.

And to stop using topsoil to make bricks.
http://www.mangalorean.com/fly-ash-bric ... each-year/
Not too sure fly ash is going to be good for anyone's health either.

China and India grew massive populations partly because of their top-soil's ability to grow the food to feed them and specialised diets that fitted the limitations.

The pursuit of the Western lifestyle is their(and our) biggest handicap.
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