[pana_burda]

Peaceful protests in Venezuela will from now on require express authorization from the mayor or the governor of the jurisdiction where they are carried out. The Supreme Court (TSJ) made this decision yesterday, declaring that the right to protest “is not an absolute right.”

http://panampost.com/panam-staff/2014/04/25/venezuela-supreme-court-outlaws-spontaneous-protests-as-not-an-absolute-right/

[Subjectivist]

Could you expand on what you mean by cubanization?

[pana_burda]

Could you expand on what you mean by cubanization?

By it, I mean to live under a castro-communist dictatorship and to lack most basic human rights, services and articles in the day by day living.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/cuban-activists-talk-about-lack-basic-freedoms-10-years-mass-crackdown-2013-03-18

Not my words but ones from a cuban with over 54 years under the same tyrannic regime and to which we are a step closer by the hours.

[Quinny]

What exactly are you saying has happened to curtail human rights so badly. The right to protest has been curtailed in the UK and I understand the US in recent years, so fail to understand the cuban link.

The law in the UK requires 6 days notice for a demonstration.

https://www.gov.uk/protests-and-marches-letting-the-police-know

As far as democracy, Venezuela seems to have a much better record in terms of the electoral organisation and voter participation.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/why-us-dcemonises-venezuelas-democracy

[dolanbaker]

What exactly are you saying has happened to curtail human rights so badly. The right to protest has been curtailed in the UK and I understand the US in recent years, so fail to understand the cuban link.

The law in the UK requires 6 days notice for a demonstration.

https://www.gov.uk/protests-and-marches-letting-the-police-know

As far as democracy, Venezuela seems to have a much better record in terms of the electoral organisation and voter participation.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/why-us-dcemonises-venezuelas-democracy

Only if the protest involves a march in a public place.

If there’s no march involved

If there’s no march organised as part of your protest, you don’t have to tell the police.

[pana_burda]

What exactly are you saying has happened to curtail human rights so badly. The right to protest has been curtailed in the UK and I understand the US in recent years, so fail to understand the cuban link.

The law in the UK requires 6 days notice for a demonstration.

https://www.gov.uk/protests-and-marches-letting-the-police-know

As far as democracy, Venezuela seems to have a much better record in terms of the electoral organisation and voter participation.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/why-us-dcemonises-venezuelas-democracy

Indeed, it is kinda difficult to agree over what perspectives might tell us. However, any cuban will happily give its right .... and left arm as to be able to do whatever you are STILL allowed to do in your own country without the personal, economic, judiciary and familiar consequences of attempting to do `em. In the personal, part of our struggle is not to reach that point, in spite I recognize, the non spontaneous nature of the 2011 events that might have triggered such reduction in whatever were your previous level of liberties.

Regarding the "democracy" issue, it is also difficult to reach any sort of agreement, provided, and I say this with all respect, yours is a monarchy, although since 1999, the line between both political systems have blurred off a significativelly in this country. Proof ? The nomination of nicolas as his successor, by hugo, by the office witheld back then, was unconstitutional. Guess you know part of the rest.

By the way guys, may I ask you all, the interpretation you may infere out of what to be a cuban is like ?

[Quinny]

TPTB have tightened up legislation, having said that the police didn't really need it, because they use Public disorder as an excuse to put down any protest that matters. I was involved in miner's strike, Greenham Common, Poll tax protests and the 'right' to demonstrate was hardly 'recognised' by the police. I suppose after being arrested and beaten up by the police having charges dropped against you is some kind of compensation

Think this extract covers many of the other scenarios:

The police can also:

change the location
limit how long a rally lasts
limit the amount of people who attend
stop a sit-down protest if it blocks road traffic or public walkways

If they don't like it they will stop it often supporting corporate interests. Couple of recent examples:

Anti fracking in Salford:
http://www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=2131

Anti arms protesting in Brighton:The police don't just support EDO (the corporate arms manufacturer) they then try to ban the documentary about it.

http://www.schnews.org.uk/schmovies/index-on-the-verge.htm

What exactly are you saying has happened to curtail human rights so badly. The right to protest has been curtailed in the UK and I understand the US in recent years, so fail to understand the cuban link.

The law in the UK requires 6 days notice for a demonstration.

https://www.gov.uk/protests-and-marches-letting-the-police-know

As far as democracy, Venezuela seems to have a much better record in terms of the electoral organisation and voter participation.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/why-us-dcemonises-venezuelas-democracy

Only if the protest involves a march in a public place.

If there’s no march involved

If there’s no march organised as part of your protest, you don’t have to tell the police.