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Coolman wrote:I know I am protesting if they drill in ANEW, how dare they want to touch nature, i rather suffer Peak Oil then have them drill in ANWR.
Buster wrote:My feeling on this isn't covered by any of the choices. Here's the logic: If we really need it now, then our children will need it a hell of a lot more. If we don't need it, we don't need it.
nero wrote:One of the reasons why some companies wish to open ANWR is that if the pipeline is kept open longer they can pump a larger fraction of their existing fields. This analysis is of course moot when the prices spike because of peak oil, then almost any pipeline tariff will be acceptable.
hymalaia wrote:K-semler - you may as well throw up the white flag and surrender with that attitude. Perhaps you already have. ANWR is more a symbolic than practical item. By saying "we might as well finish the job", as your reason you are showing a lack of concern for the precarious state of our societies and our planet. As far as over-indulging in a convenient, high consumption life-style, I personally would rather work on curbing that step by step than rape the remaining wild-life. Many things we have are simply unnecessary and cost a lot of energy. It might be an uphill battle but it's better than giving up (which is what I consider running for the bunker to be). So no, don't drill.
Coolman wrote:K_semler, first of all, I would love to live off the land, believe me, but I lack the training cause I was born into a society that does not require it, and I don't drive a car, I ride a bike everywhere, I hate cars and refuse to get one. I feel depressed almost every time I use electricity, such as this computer, so don't tell me how I am. Peak Oil is the best thing that could happen to the world in my eyes.
For cripes' sake let's put to rest the whole "there's not enough there to make a difference" fallacy. We're drilling all over the world in lots of areas a lot smaller than ANWR right now,
I see it as the USA's "ultimate" strategic reserve.
And how much is really up there is still debatable. Remember, only a couple of years ago, people though the Caspian was going to be another Ghawar. Maybe bigger. But it turns out there's only 10% of what they thought was there.
nero wrote:If the richest most powerful country in the world can't resist the temptation to despoil one of their most pristine wilderness areas what hope is there for the Amazon or Africa's natural heritage (or Yellowstone)?
We won't drill ANWR because (drumroll please):
1. Global warming has already shortened the season in which the tundra is frozen solid for travel and within a few more years ANWR will be unreachable by heavy vehicle.
2. We won't drill before TSHTF and once it does ANWR will be but a distant memory lost after only a generation or two.
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