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I started using it and now garden 20,000 square feet and still use the same shovel.


Plantagenet wrote:
In the last few years I've eaten moose, caribou, bear, salmon, halibut, grouse, ducks, geese, and whale.

Ludi wrote:hillsidedigger wrote:
I started using it and now garden 20,000 square feet and still use the same shovel.
How much of your diet would you say you're growing? That is, what percentage of your calories and nutrition do you get from the garden versus the store?
Thanks.

hillsidedigger wrote: I fully expect in just another season or 2 to be acquiring 2/3rds. of our food from the gardens, orchards, vineyards and chickens and also donate much to family and neighbors.
But thank you.

diemos wrote:Electron microscope photo of an ant's head.

Golgo13 wrote:Trying to grow some of my own food.
Not doing too well.


kpeavey wrote:Petroleum and fossil fuels are used in almost every aspect of the food system.
Field machinery is built and operated with diesel and gasoline
Fertilizers are produced with petroleum I'm doing some composting for my garden, so I've lessened that amount.
Pesticides are produced with petroleum I'm still using Amdro for fire ant control. That may be a product I will miss. How are others controlling fire ants without using fossil fuel products?]
Herbicides are produced with petroleum Don't use them. I weed by hand and shovel.
Irrigation water is pumped with diesel or electricity (coal, natural gas) I use gravity-fed rainwater as much as possible for my garden and trees.
Grain crops are dried most often with natural gas and with some electricity
Processing uses diesel, natural gas and electric
Distribution is primarily diesel (trains, trucks) and bunker fuel (shipping)
Refrigeration is primarily electric (coal, natural gas) I bought a solar-powered freezer. It's been working fine for about two years now.
Packaging is often single use containers and diverse: plastic (petroleum), cardboard, wood, cans, glass, wax (petroleum), foil, paper. Production of packaging is energy intensive. I recycle aluminum cans and use the cloth shopping bags. I don't buy too much stuff in glass, except perhaps more canning jars.Yep, there's a list of stuff to stock up on...
Retailing uses electricity (coal, natural gas) for lighting, advertising, refrigeration, air conditioning
Shopping is primarily gasoline in personal vehicles I combine my shopping trips with my commute.
Home food storage is electricity (coal, natural gas) for refrigeration I've been putting gallon containers of ice made in the solar-powered freezer into the fridge so it won't run as much for about two years now.
Meal preparation uses electric (coal, natural gas, propane) or natural gas stoves Solar ovens can help and I love mesquite/oak bbq.
The dishes are washed with hot water (electric, natural gas) and put away The passive solar water heater has been working fine. I estimate less than two years from now and it will have paid itself off in energy savings.
Finally, the trash is taken out in bags (petroleum) and hauled (diesel) to the dump.
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Ludi wrote:hillsidedigger wrote: I fully expect in just another season or 2 to be acquiring 2/3rds. of our food from the gardens, orchards, vineyards and chickens and also donate much to family and neighbors.
Ok, I was hoping you would give a current estimate, not what you expect to do at some point in the future.But thank you.

PeakOiler wrote:
But you didn't tell us if you're eating less fossil fuels.


hillsidedigger wrote:1/3rd. but only with about 2 hours a day.
What calorie crops are you growing, if you don't mind giving some more details?

Ludi wrote:How much of your diet would you say you're growing? That is, what percentage of your calories and nutrition do you get from the garden versus the store?
Thanks.

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