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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Fri 10 Nov 2017, 15:58:32
by vtsnowedin
pstarr wrote:Big Brother is a meany, but his Little Brother (kid's into slow-pitch softball) is such a dear. Wouldn't let anything happen to his mommy's Tesla.

I hope you are just kidding and have read or at least know of Orwell's classic 1984. If not you might lose your job at the Minitrue (Ministry of truth in old speak) and find yourself in room 101. 8O

Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Fri 10 Nov 2017, 21:49:16
by AdamB
pstarr wrote:
asg70 wrote:
pstarr wrote:I know you know them :) They are your friends. Good friends! Happy Friends [smilie=5umbrella.gif]


Got a point or do you just want to be flagged?

How about this: no hands-free autonomous vehicle ever drove from San Francisco to Los Angeles. That makes your little friend a liar. Is that better for you? Is it better that I out and out call Adam a liar. Or am I allowed to have a little fun with him? Is that your f#cking call?


How about you...like...read...something on the topic before discovering that just as with oily topics, you don't know squat. This one is from 2 years ago. I spoke to the gentleman I referenced in April of 2016.

Now learn something, maybe you'll grow a new neuron or something and won't be such a shining example of an ignorant patsy.

https://www.wired.com/2015/01/rode-500- ... re-boring/

Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Fri 10 Nov 2017, 21:54:35
by AdamB
pstarr wrote:I read and understand it, unlike the EV posers (none actually own an EV).


3 years old and still going strong.

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I'd offer to let you drive it, but it requires enough intellectual horsepower to push a button, turn that big wheelie thing, and use go and stop pedals. Plus I'd have to get the wife's permission, and she doesn't let many fully functional adults drive it, so you are REALLY far outta luck in that regard.

Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Fri 10 Nov 2017, 21:56:59
by AdamB
Plantagenet wrote:Self Driving shuttle crashes in Las Vegas

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The AI driving the shuttle probably got distracted by some pretty girls on the sidewalk.


Read the article. The human driver of the other vehicle was at fault. Score: Computers 1, Humans 0

Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Fri 10 Nov 2017, 22:01:58
by AdamB
Revi wrote: We have owned a small electric vehicle for over 12 years now, and use it almost every day in the snow free months. It uses a tiny fraction of the energy of a regular car, and can get you around about a 15 mile radius. Image


The wife has been using a full sized electric to get around for 3 years or so now, and it uses a tiny fraction of the energy of a regular car, and can get you around a 20 mile radius. At 70mph on the interstate or 10mph around town. With ice cold A/C, or heat, and better yet if it gets rammed by a vehicle other than another small lightweight EV, its got 4000# of airbags, steel crumple zones, antilock brakes and traction control and heck fire it is so good you can drive it around in the winter months and 110F heat and everything!! Yours looks like it sacrifices quite a bit of safety there Revi. How many airbags you got on that thing?

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Fri 10 Nov 2017, 22:04:13
by AdamB
GHung wrote:BTW: My first major was 'CS-Expert Systems", now generally referred to as "AI".


Are you any good at it? Awhile ago you claimed to be unemployed and poor in Appalachia?

Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Sat 11 Nov 2017, 15:41:12
by asg70
pstarr wrote:No computer hardware or program known today that can pick out a face in a crowd


That's the difference between engineers and doomer luddites like you. Engineers roll up their sleeves and SOLVE PROBLEMS. Doomers assume all problems are HOPELESS. That's why we have the computers of today rather than them still being hand-built vacuum tube monstrosities. I mean, if doomers were in control since the start I wonder whether we'd even have invented the abacus! "This math, it's just too hard. Let's stick with eenie meenie on our fingers."

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Sat 11 Nov 2017, 16:11:36
by GHung
AdamB wrote:
GHung wrote:BTW: My first major was 'CS-Expert Systems", now generally referred to as "AI".


Are you any good at it? Awhile ago you claimed to be unemployed and poor in Appalachia?


I'll only say that you and I have very, very different values, Adamn. And I was good at a lot of things. Still am. I know that accumulation of 'wealth' is a priority for most folks, but I walk a different path. And I'm not really unemployed, and never said that (I notice you read in a lot of things people never said). I just don't work for the man. Your government likely considers me "not employed and not looking for work". I call it flying under the radar.

One of us strives for some humility in their life and character, and that ain't you.

Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Sat 11 Nov 2017, 21:58:22
by Outcast_Searcher
GHung wrote:
AdamB wrote:
GHung wrote:BTW: My first major was 'CS-Expert Systems", now generally referred to as "AI".


Are you any good at it? Awhile ago you claimed to be unemployed and poor in Appalachia?


I'll only say that you and I have very, very different values, Adamn. And I was good at a lot of things. Still am. I know that accumulation of 'wealth' is a priority for most folks, but I walk a different path. And I'm not really unemployed, and never said that (I notice you read in a lot of things people never said). I just don't work for the man. Your government likely considers me "not employed and not looking for work". I call it flying under the radar.

One of us strives for some humility in their life and character, and that ain't you.

So apparently you're not reporting your income for tax purposes by "flying under the radar"?

Don't read the NYT -- their readers, via various comments on editorials would be VERY, VERY angry at you, as they are, currently blaming evil tax cheaters for the fact that taxes aren't magically curing all the US's problems.

Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Sat 11 Nov 2017, 22:20:49
by GHung
Outcast_Searcher wrote:
GHung wrote:
AdamB wrote:
GHung wrote:BTW: My first major was 'CS-Expert Systems", now generally referred to as "AI".


Are you any good at it? Awhile ago you claimed to be unemployed and poor in Appalachia?


I'll only say that you and I have very, very different values, Adamn. And I was good at a lot of things. Still am. I know that accumulation of 'wealth' is a priority for most folks, but I walk a different path. And I'm not really unemployed, and never said that (I notice you read in a lot of things people never said). I just don't work for the man. Your government likely considers me "not employed and not looking for work". I call it flying under the radar.

One of us strives for some humility in their life and character, and that ain't you.

So apparently you're not reporting your income for tax purposes by "flying under the radar"?

Don't read the NYT -- their readers, via various comments on editorials would be VERY, VERY angry at you, as they are, currently blaming evil tax cheaters for the fact that taxes aren't magically curing all the US's problems.


Wrong. I just try to avoid things that increase the velocity of money and create tax liability.

Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Sun 12 Nov 2017, 18:23:31
by AdamB
GHung wrote:
AdamB wrote:
GHung wrote:BTW: My first major was 'CS-Expert Systems", now generally referred to as "AI".


Are you any good at it? Awhile ago you claimed to be unemployed and poor in Appalachia?


I'll only say that you and I have very, very different values, Adamn.


Well, unlike some other things you have pointed at me, that is reasonably accurate.

GHung wrote: And I was good at a lot of things. Still am. I know that accumulation of 'wealth' is a priority for most folks, but I walk a different path.


I don't know anyone who has made a priority of acquiring wealth. You must hang out with a different class of folks in Appalachia than I was raised with. The folks I know are happy to eat, have a roof over their heads, most would like a good and steady job but most don't have one, just happy to get by might describe their way of thinking. My thinking was different of course, but it had nothing to do with wealth either. Getting out would describe it best I suppose.

GHung wrote: And I'm not really unemployed, and never said that (I notice you read in a lot of things people never said).


You said you were unemployed in 2008. You didn't seem to indicate in that post if you had remedied that situation or not. Good to hear that even with peak oil and pstarr claiming at various times that it was a depression, you were able to work your way out of it as did apparently many others, the unemployment rate being what it is today.

GHung wrote: I just don't work for the man. Your government likely considers me "not employed and not looking for work". I call it flying under the radar.


Nothing wrong with a cash and off the books type work. Until the government bans cash anyway. And it isn't my government any more than it is yours, more like it is the government we all live under, whether you like it or not.

GHung wrote:One of us strives for some humility in their life and character, and that ain't you.


You wouldn't know any more about the humility in my life than you do what I strive for or what my core values are, or how I grew up in conditions that aren't the same as the ones I live in today. You never asked, otherwise I would have explained some of them, instead you just assumed based on my enthusiasm for the EV solution to peak oil for most folks. And that enthusiasm is economic in nature, nothing more, the same guiding principles that most folks use, be they poor in Appalachia, or not.

Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 7

Unread postPosted: Mon 13 Nov 2017, 00:20:15
by vtsnowedin
AdamB wrote:
I don't know anyone who has made a priority of acquiring wealth.

I know a lot of people who have made a priority of acquiring enough wealth to leave poverty behind them and never again fear having to do without. Some do get carried away with it and amass why more then they will ever need to the point of spending too much time making money and too little time with their families enjoying the happiness they can now afford.
Somehow I have managed to avoid such problems. :oops:

Growth in Electric Vehicles Won’t Dent Oil Demand Much

Unread postPosted: Tue 14 Nov 2017, 19:07:31
by AdamB


Amid an anticipated increase in electric vehicles during the next 20 years, the world's appetite for oil is still expected to wane just a bit, as demand for transportation including petrochemicals continues, the International Energy Agency said Tuesday. An estimated 50 million vehicles will be in operation by 2025 and 300 million by 2040, versus about 2 million currently, the IEA said. But that's expected to reduce global demand by just 2.5 million barrels a day, or roughly 2 percent, by then. The U.S. will be a major player in global oil and gas markets for years as the shale industry boom transforms into the largest supply increase ever, the agency said in its annual World Energy Outlook. The cycle will change the U.S. into a net exporter of fossil fuels, with growth in U.S. oil production hitting that accomplished by Saudi


Growth in Electric Vehicles Won’t Dent Oil Demand Much