pstarr wrote:Tanada I would expect more from the site admin . . . instead of insults. I don't believe you even read your own posted link. The company's business is fermented corn ethanol. The same stuff you must have been drinking when you insulted me. Nothing to do with cellulosic alcohol. Do you know the difference?
The cellulosic business is still still-borne. Dead in the water. Or should I say, dead in its own waste products.
wiki wrote:In 2007, the company received a US$80 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy for the creation of a cellulosic ethanol production facility in Emmetsburg, Iowa. This facility is currently under construction and is expected to begin full operations in 2014. It is expected to produce 25 million gallons of ethanol per year from corncobs, leaves and husks provided by farmers in and around the area.[4]
Nothing has come of this. If you read the link you posted you would know that.
From the link I posted.
Cellulose, which provides the cellular structure for all plants, is the world's most abundant organic compound. POET has been researching and developing cellulosic ethanol technology since 2001, when we began performing bench-scale testing of our cellulosic technology at our research laboratory. In 2008, we began producing cellulosic ethanol at pilot scale at our research center. In partnership with Royal DSM of the Netherlands, POET-DSM Advanced Biofuels opened a commercial-scale ethanol plant in Emmetsburg, Iowa – dubbed “Project LIBERTY” – in September of 2014. Project LIBERTY’s feedstock is corn crop residue – cobs, leaves, husk and some stalk.
Pretending something does not exist does not make it cease to exist.
http://poetdsm.com/pr/first-commercial- ... osic-plantEMMETSBURG, IOWA (September 3, 2014) – POET-DSM Advanced Biofuels, LLC, a joint venture of Royal DSM and POET, LLC, today proved its revolutionary technology that converts agricultural residue into renewable fuel at the Grand Opening of its first commercial cellulosic ethanol plant in Emmetsburg, Iowa.
The plant, named “Project LIBERTY,” was formally opened in the presence of His Majesty Willem-Alexander, King of the Netherlands, U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack, Deputy Under Secretary Michael Knotek of the Department of Energy, Governor Terry Branstad and Lieutenant Governor Kim Reynolds of Iowa, other dignitaries and thousands of guests.
Project LIBERTY converts baled corn cobs, leaves, husk and stalk into renewable fuel. The plant has now officially started up, processing its first batch of biomass into cellulosic ethanol and is moving forward toward continuous operation. At full capacity, it will convert 770 tons of biomass per day to produce ethanol at a rate of 20 million gallons per year, later ramping up to 25 million gallons per year.
“Some have called cellulosic ethanol a ‘fantasy fuel,’ but today it becomes a reality,” said Jeff Broin, POET Founder and Executive Chairman. “With access now to new sources for energy, Project LIBERTY can be the first step in transforming our economy, our environment and our national security.”
Maybe from California you can't see it, but 20 million gallons per year is a sound commercial scale start in the Midwest. If a woman had conceived on the day this plant opened she would be delivering a baby now,. Just like that baby the Cellulosic Ethanol industry is going to keep growing in the USA because it uses waste material as feedstock.
Predicting the future is not easy and I could be wrong on the timing, but proclaiming a proven technology does not exist is no more of an argument than saying the Earth is Flat because you never personally traveled all the way around the globe.