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Re: Famine Declared in Four Countries

Unread postPosted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 11:33:59
by Cog
We in the first world countries would be better served in cutting them loose and letting them die-off.

Re: Famine Declared in Four Countries

Unread postPosted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 12:11:09
by Hawkcreek
I'm sure that most of them will be adopted by Hollywood stars.
I don't really see a problem.

Re: Famine Declared in Four Countries

Unread postPosted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 12:14:58
by eugene
Comforting to see the typical caring American attitude. Ignorant, of course, of our global destruction.

Re: Famine Declared in Four Countries

Unread postPosted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 14:35:20
by dohboi
Yes, the current pathologies are well on display here regularly.

Speaking of which, I ran across a few new (to me) terms that others may find useful or worthy of discussion.

Pathocracy: where individuals with personality disorders (especially psychopathy) occupy positions of power and influence

Such systems are especially studies by those in the field of the study of systemic evil, or ponerology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_ponerology

Re: Famine Declared in Four Countries

Unread postPosted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 15:47:16
by sparky
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The single factor determining population number is local food availability
any food import is basically non sustainable long term
the population carrying number is not based on the "average production" but on the expected bad year number

Food production is one of my main interest , the recent years have been very good ,
grain stocks are plentiful , prices are low ,this will change , it always does
last spike in world prices saw the Middle East racked by social troubles
follow the story !

from the US government department of agriculture , used by all the traders in the world
http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/MannUsd ... entID=1194

from Glencore , a major trader for an instant view
http://www.glencoregrain.com.au/

from the UN food and agriculture organization , for a statistical overview
http://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/f ... sindex/en/

Re: Famine Declared in Four Countries

Unread postPosted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 06:08:15
by onlooker
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... -right-now

The Global Famine Begins: UN Announces That The Worst Food Crisis Since World War II Is Happening Right Now

Re: Famine Declared in Four Countries

Unread postPosted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 06:31:01
by dohboi
And global warming is only barely getting starting.

This is what we have at about a degree C of warming. We are likely, even by rather conservative estimates, to regularly be above 2 C of extra warming within a couple decades, and as pointed out above, over 7 by centuries end.

The book "Six Degrees" stops there because that level already brings on more than apocalyptic consequences.

Re: Famine Declared in Four Countries

Unread postPosted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 06:41:27
by onlooker
dohboi wrote:And global warming is only barely getting starting.

This is what we have at about a degree C of warming. We are likely, even by rather conservative estimates, to regularly be above 2 C of extra warming within a couple decades, and as pointed out above, over 7 by centuries end.
reference
The book "Six Degrees" stops there because that level already brings on more than apocalyptic consequences.

Yep, that book is also my reference guide. According to it once we get to 2C, above baseline, it is runaway to 6C or above. Dr. Hanson seems to agree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDP8xH_Qmls