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Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Tue 15 Aug 2017, 10:29:53
by pstarr
dohboi wrote:I guess p is trying to say I shouldn't post something about a flood in the deluge thread?? Or that rain had nothing to do with the flood?? 8O

He seems to have gone back to blathering, so I'll go back to ignoring him.

Meanwhile in the real, tragic world, the number of missing is in the thousands...

https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... -emergency

It's not blathering, simple ecological science which is not taught in school. I have my theories: we are all connected in a web of life, human's are not special and so we live and die and depend on the earth like other beings. It's kind of a religion, a guide to good living, but without a priesthood. (Unless you send your money to Al Gore lol )

But I must say, dohboi you have an odd post there. As if you are addressing an audience. It seems you'd rather be on a soap box than talking to real people. I made good arguments. You are nasty when you don't get your way. Or are you an intern also, like AdamB? For an Alarmist Publication?

Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Tue 15 Aug 2017, 14:51:23
by dohboi
The stupid just never stops:

"The Trump administration is acting very rashly in part out of the desire to undo a climate measure under the Obama administration," he said. "This is an enormous mistake that is disastrous for taxpayers. The (Obama) rule would have saved billions of dollars over time."

Trump to revoke Obama-era flood risk building standards

U.S. President Donald Trump will revoke an Obama-era executive order on Tuesday that required strict building standards for government-funded projects to reduce exposure to increased flooding from sea level rise...


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1AV1ZI

Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Tue 15 Aug 2017, 15:09:21
by Tanada
dohboi wrote:The stupid just never stops:

"The Trump administration is acting very rashly in part out of the desire to undo a climate measure under the Obama administration," he said. "This is an enormous mistake that is disastrous for taxpayers. The (Obama) rule would have saved billions of dollars over time."

Trump to revoke Obama-era flood risk building standards

U.S. President Donald Trump will revoke an Obama-era executive order on Tuesday that required strict building standards for government-funded projects to reduce exposure to increased flooding from sea level rise...


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1AV1ZI



I believe by far the crucial influence in this decision is real-estate developers who want to keep selling that beach front and having the taxpayers pay for repairs after every flooding event or hurricane force damaging wind.

Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Tue 15 Aug 2017, 15:14:13
by dohboi
Yes, of course, pressure from that front must be enormous. Now we see what kind of politicians stand up to such pressure and do the right thing, and which ones cave to the pressure.

Meanwhile, more info on the atmospheric conditions that helped spawn the SL disaster (yes, along with bad land management, and also bad settlement patterns, bad sewage management...):

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/flood ... erra-leone

This summer, the waves moving off Africa and through the Atlantic have been unusually strong, leading to a very active early season across the Main Development Region of the Atlantic.

Tropical Storm Bret, which developed east of the Lesser Antilles in June, was among the earliest Cape Verde tropical storms on record. Bret was followed in July by Don, another unusually early Cape Verde tropical storm.

The heaviest downpours in many parts of the globe have become heavier in recent decades, a trend attributed to human-produced climate change and expected to continue.

A study led by Christopher Taylor (UK Centre for Ecology and Hydrology), published this spring in the journal Nature, finds that the Sahel’s most intense mesoscale convective systems (organized clusters of thunderstorms) have tripled in frequency since 1982.

They argue that Saharan warming is helping to intensify convection within the MCSs through increased wind shear and changes to the Saharan air layer.
“The meridional gradient is projected to strengthen throughout the twenty-first century, suggesting that the Sahel will experience particularly marked increases in extreme rain,” the study concludes.

Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Wed 16 Aug 2017, 09:26:06
by dohboi

Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Wed 16 Aug 2017, 14:38:36
by pstarr
Intact forests not only keep soil together, but they absorb water to prevent runoff.

Coast redwood forests are so dense that the amount of plant matter (biomass) is several times more than in a tropical rainforest. One old coast redwood has enough wood to make 20 three-bedroom houses and a giant sequoia has at least twice that amount. The General Sherman Tree has 600,000 board feet and the trunk itself weighs nearly 3,000,000 pounds, according to a webpage on the Palomar College website. About half the weight is water.

Equivalent to nine 16' X 32' residential swimming pools

Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Wed 16 Aug 2017, 18:11:12
by dohboi
https://robertscribbler.com/2017/08/16/ ... -to-nepal/

Intensifying Equatorial Rains: 3.3 Million Afflicted by Flooding in India and Bangladesh as Hundreds Lose Lives to Landslides from Sierra Leone to Nepal

... increasing severity of heavy rainfall events is just one aspect of human-forced climate change through fossil fuel burning. For as the Earth warms, both the rate of evaporation and precipitation increases. And as atmospheric moisture loading and convection increase coordinate with rising temperatures, so do the potential peak intensities of the most powerful storms.

...the Sahel’s most intense mesoscale convective systems (organized clusters of thunderstorms) have tripled in frequency since 1982...


Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Mon 21 Aug 2017, 06:22:28
by onlooker
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-new ... kDqJN.html

Floods affect 16 million in Nepal, Bangladesh and India: Red Cross

Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Wed 30 Aug 2017, 15:40:10
by dohboi
Remember that there are horrific floods happening elsewhere in the world besides TX/LA:

HOW CLIMATE CHANGE CONTRIBUTED TO MASSIVE FLOODS IN SOUTH ASIA

While most Americans are fixated on Hurricane Harvey, which continues to break rainfall records since making landfall along the coast on Friday, an even deadlier disaster is unfolding in South Asia. Across Nepal, Bangladesh, and India, an exceptionally strong monsoon season has left almost 1,200 dead and displaced or affected tens of millions more. Heavy rains led to unprecedented landslides and floods—as much as a third of Bangladesh is under water—leaving communities cut off as they face food and fresh water shortages and disease threats that will remain long after the water recedes.


https://psmag.com/environment/how-clima ... south-asia

Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Thu 31 Aug 2017, 21:37:40
by dohboi


Oxfam reports that two thirds of Bangladesh is currently under water.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-31/i ... ns/8858858

Re: Deluge Thread 2017

Unread postPosted: Mon 04 Sep 2017, 00:17:12
by dohboi