Chemtrails, Aerosol Geoengineering and Bioengineering

[Graeme]

Chemtrails, Aerosol Geoengineering and Bioengineering: A Massive Biological Experiment of Unknown Purpose

The materials disbursed in stratospheric aerosol geoengineering operations contain a combination of ionizable metallic salts, filaments, gel-type materials, and crystals. These are the longstanding and deeply interrogated observations of independent environmental research scientist Clifford Carnicom given on a December 10 conference call organized by GlobalSkywatch.com director Russ Tanner. During the meeting, coincidentally held on International Human Rights Day, Carnicom asserted that because the system of responsible government has failed, the immediate collective efforts of citizens are necessary “to claim their rights upon this planet.”[1]

His remarks were made just three months after his presentation at the Consciousness Beyond Chemtrails conference held in Los Angeles last summer. In that talk, “Geoengineering and Bioengineering: The Unmistakable Link,” Carnicom upheld his research detecting such a correlation. “’Is there a direct relationship between the alteration of living systems (us) and ecosystems (the environment)?’” he asks. “My answer is unequivocally, ‘Yes.’”

Mr. Carnicom’s work began in 1999 when he noted clear changes in the skies overhead. He has since produced a large body of sound and meticulous yet accessible research reports examining the nature and contents of such aerosols, all of which are available at carnicominstitute.org. Carnicom also oversees the Morgellons Research Group, a body of concerned citizens, health care professionals, scientific researchers and microbiologists who devote their time to investigating this unfolding syndrome.

The implications of his observations—that virtually every breathing organism is an unwitting participant in a massive biological experiment of unknown purpose—have proven terrifying enough to prevent many individuals from even tentatively considering his investigations and hypotheses. “There’s a personal journey everyone has to take about the reality of this,” Carnicom told call participants.

The most well-known manifestation of such nano-biologicals is the oft-misunderstood Morgellons ailment, an especially unusual and disturbing condition marked by painful dermal lesions through which such nano-fibers protrude. Tammy, a participant on the conference call suffering from Morgellons who became intimately informed about the sickness because of Carnicom’s work, asked if the broader population was also susceptible.

“I want to be as accurate as possible if I’m going to make a public declaration,” Carnicom stated. “The diplomatic way of saying this is that the evidence indicates that the general population is subject to the very same symptoms that Tammy is experiencing.”

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[dorlomin]

No.

[SeaGypsy]

Last guy I knew into chemtrails paranoia also believed he could extract enough 'Brown's gas' from his F100's electrical system to fuel the carburetor, the world really is ruled by the 'Lizard People' and the place to invest is 100 meters above current sealevel, where the beach resorts of post AGW Apocalypse will host the NWO's Lizard People on holidays from their jobs as enforcers on global slave camps.

[Graeme]

Oops. This is what happens when one tries to multitask and post too hastily. I should have done a wiki search. At least more people will be aware of this fraud.

Morgellons (also called Morgellons disease or Morgellons syndrome) is a name that was given in 2002 by Mary Leitao[1] to a proposed condition characterized by a range of cutaneous (skin) symptoms including crawling, biting, and stinging sensations (formication); finding fibers on or under the skin; and persistent skin lesions (e.g., rashes or sores). Doctors,[2] including dermatologists[3] and psychiatrists,[4] regard Morgellons as a form of delusional infestation (also called delusional parasitosis), i.e. the belief that there is a pathogenic infestation despite contrary medical evidence.[5]
Despite the lack of evidence that Morgellons is a novel or distinct condition and the absence of any agreed set of diagnostic symptoms,[6][not in citation given] the Morgellons Research Foundation and self-diagnosed Morgellons patients successfully lobbied members of Congress and the U.S. government's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to investigate the proposed condition.[2][7] The CDC researchers issued the results of their multi-year study in January 2012, indicating that there were no disease organisms present in Morgellons patients, the fibers found were normal clothing fibers, and suggested that patients' sensations were manifestations of "delusional infestation".[8][9]

[Repent]

I'm still very skeptical about 'Chemtrails', but what if there is some truth to the matter? What if this is the first, (of many?), secret geo-engineering schemes to cool the planet from catastrophic antropogenic climate change?

Whole websites exist about these chemtrails- is it all fluff?

http://aircrap.org/

And a full length documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA

A method is described for reducing atmospheric or global warming resulting from the presence of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, i.e., from the greenhouse effect. Such gases are relatively transparent to sunshine, but absorb strongly the long-wavelength infrared radiation released by the earth. The method incudes the step of seeding the layer of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere with particles of materials characterized by wavelength-dependent emissivity. Such materials include Welsbach materials and the oxides of metals which have high emissivity (and thus low reflectivities) in the visible and 8-12 micron infrared wavelength regions.

The greenhouse gases are typically in the earth's stratosphere at an altitude of seven to thirteen kilometers. This suggests that the particle seeding should be done at an altitude on the order of 10 kilometers. The particles may be seeded by dispersal from seeding aircraft; one exemplary technique may be via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work regarding the metallic particles. Once the tiny particles have been dispersed into the atmosphere, the particles may remain in suspension for up to one year.

What happens when they stop spraying sulphur, nano-fibres and other chemicals into the air; say following an economic collapse?? A delay of a year or two and then, WHAM we get hit by the full force of global warming without mitagation?

Geoengineering done in secret to 'hide' global warming is probally the agenda; an extention of 'let's kick the can down the road as far as we can' type of approach. Likely not good policy.

[pstarr]

They don't teach this stuff in MBA or art class.

[Repent]

They don't teach this stuff in MBA or art class.

Sarcasm??

Did you watch the documentary posted above- where credible scientists have detected Aluminum and Barium at thousands of times the safe level falling on us from the sky?

Here is again if you missed it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA

[Plantagenet]

Geoengineering done in secret to 'hide' global warming ....

Nope.

I just flew from London to Seattle-----the 747 was producing huge contrails from the engines under the wings as we crossed northern Canada---the contrails were a spectacular sight in the morning sun.

This is a common phenomena that has nothing to do with chemicals---contrails are produced by condensation of water vapor from the air forced through the jet engines.

I know some people are big scairdy cats, but being afraid of water vapor is really silly.


Don't be afraid----those Contrails are just condensed water vapor




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[careinke]

Geoengineering done in secret to 'hide' global warming ....

Nope.

I just flew from London to Seattle-----the 747 was producing huge contrails from the engines under the wings as we crossed northern Canada---the contrails were a spectacular sight in the morning sun.

This is a common phenomena that has nothing to do with chemicals---contrails are produced by condensation of water vapor from the air forced through the jet engines.

I know some people are big scairdy cats, but being afraid of water vapor is really silly.


Don't be afraid----those Contrails are just condensed water vapor




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As a former Mission Crew Commander on the US AWACS, I'm throwing my weight behind Plant on this one.

Contrails are a well known phenomenon, and are caused by water vapor, not chemicals. Before every mission the weather folks brief you on the altitudes where you will get contrails. You need to know this to keep your fighters out of those altitudes. Not because they are dangerous in and of themselves, but because they make you visible from a LONG way away, and as they say "First tally, first kill". It's not good to be seen in a dog fight or a sneak attack.

Do you really think the US could be loading all those aircraft with strange chemicals without a large scale infrastructure. The secret would have been broken a long time ago, think of all the people that would need to be brought in. Engineers to design the on-board systems, workers at the aircraft plants installing new systems, storage facilities at airports, builders installing extra carrying tanks, not to mention the added weight.

Finally, I'm certain with my former positions and security clearances I would know about it and NOT be a part of this conversation.

If there is stuff falling from the sky, I'd be looking at pollution, not some grand super secret experiment.

[Repent]

If there is stuff falling from the sky, I'd be looking at pollution, not some grand super secret experiment.

Got to admit, this is a possibility too. Maybe in the last 5 years or so some new type of Aluminum- Barium fuel additive has been developed and widely adopted to reduce engine knock or increase fuel efficiency?

This could have all of the delirious effects on the environment that these people are claiming, without a conspiracy being involved. Rack one up for another way we're wrecking the ecosystem and our own health!

[SeaGypsy]

Barium is used as a smelting flux, including Aluminium smelting. I would be looking for a big leaky furnace lacking the scrubbing equipment to remove aerosol fluxes. Having used a lot of Barium Carbonate in smelting glass, I know the cost of putting in scrubbers for a 250 liter furnace was about $250k 10 years ago. We didn't have them. People who worked with us died. Our neighbors died. My father died. I haven't been near a glass furnace since.

[pstarr]

Nope. It's Obama's fault. He has doused us with tofu so render us pliable vegetarians. Gotta go with the NWO on this one.

[MrEnergyCzar]

Isn't chemtrails about putting aluminum way up in the stratosphere? I always wonder why those chemtrail believers aren't concerned about what the coal plants are spewing in the atmosphere instead.... and if "they" were poisoning us, don't they breath the same air as everyone else so they'd be hurting themselves?

MrEnergyCzar

[Repent]

This is a common phenomena that has nothing to do with chemicals---contrails are produced by condensation of water vapor from the air forced through the jet engines.

I know some people are big scairdy cats, but being afraid of water vapor is really silly.

This issue was discussed at length in the video documentary link I posted above. They described the difference between contrails and chemtrails.

In one instance they had a biologist who had fish living in a controlled breeding facility. Everything was monitored and the facility was encased in a liner to prevent outside contamination. Yet the water gradually became more alkaline; and a one point a film of aluminum oxide was found coating the pond. The only possible source was that it fell out of the sky.

Watch the documentary; then offer your rebuttal of the concepts it introduces.

[Plantagenet]

the water gradually became more alkaline; and a one point a film of aluminum oxide was found coating the pond. The only possible source was that it fell out of the sky..

I call BS.

I watched some of the film, but it was so scientifically inaccurate I didn't watch it all. For instance---take the claim that a "film of aluminum oxide" was found floating on a pond.

1. Aluminum is a metal. The density of aluminum oxide is about 4 gm/cm3----about four times of that of water. It is completely impossible for aluminum oxide to fall from from the sky and form a film that floats on water---- any bit of aluminum oxide would never "coat a pond"---it would sink to the bottom.


Aluminum oxide----density = ca. 4 gm/cm3


2. Even if the physical fact that Aluminum oxide is too dense to float on water is ignored It is equally impossible that it was dissolved in water and then precipitated out and formed a "film" on water because Aluminum oxide is completely insoluble in water.


I call BS----aluminum oxide is completely insoluble in water and is far too dense to float on water.

[Repent]

I've got to admit, I thought Planetagent had won the argument above until I saw this video this week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOHD8db ... detailpage

Video clearly shows modified aircraft spraying chemicals into the air in some sort of large scale geo-engineering plan. The fellow in this video claims that he can't power his solar house in California due to the emmissions from this aerial spraying.

Scary stuff!

[Graeme]

Airplane Emissions and Climate Change

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), a scientific intergovernmental body set up by the United Nations (UN) to provide comprehensive scientific assessments of the risk of human-induced climate change, reports that CO2 emitted by jets can survive in the atmosphere for upwards of 100 years, and that its combination with other gas and particulate emissions could have double or four times the warming effect as CO2 emissions alone.Modern jet engines are not that different from automobile engines—both involve internal combustion and burn fossil fuels. But instead of gasoline or diesel, jet fuel is primarily kerosene, a common home heating fuel used around the world. Just like car engines, jets emit CO2, nitrogen oxides, sulfur oxides and soot.

Beyond their contributions to global warming, airplane emissions can also lead to the formation of acid rain and smog, as well as visibility impairment and crop damage down on the ground. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) reports that aircraft engines contribute about one percent of total U.S. mobile source nitrogen oxide emissions and up to four percent around airports in some areas.

What worries environmentalists is the fact that the number of airline flights is on the rise and is expected to skyrocket by mid-century, meaning that if we don’t get a handle on airplane emissions, our other carbon footprint reduction efforts could be for naught. The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) reports that commercial flights grew nine percent from 2002 to 2010 and will rise another 34 percent by 2020.

Jet emissions standards are based on guidelines established under the U.S. Clean Air Act and are set by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). Current standards were created in 1996 and updated in 2006, but environmental leaders want even stricter limits on greenhouse gas and other emissions.

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