Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tikib wrote:Also I think everyone will be surprised how quickly new nuclear reactors can be built when all the regulation crap is ignored.
With that goal in mind, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission created a method to simplify future planning and construction, which is similar to the approach used in France. Under it, manufacturers have already won advance government approval for a handful of new standardized reactor designs and plant sites are approved before major capital investment begins. That way, when a utility applies to build a reactor of an approved design, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission will need to review the modifications that are unique to its site.
The cookie-cutter approach is meant to ensure that companies will not have to rip out concrete and pipes in the middle of construction to satisfy changing regulatory requirements. This was one of the biggest problems that led to long construction delays and cost overruns in the 1980s.
Companies receive a single license to build and operate a plant, with approval before any significant capital expenditures. The threshold for intervention after the license is issued is high, and is intended to prevent frivolous efforts to stop construction resulting in costly delays. That should enable the plants to be built faster and be cheaper to run - and so much less risky financially.
The 227 -acre nuclear power plant site is located in a 6,000- acre wetland and employs about 1300 people. Operator of the nuclear power plant is the French company Electricité de France (EDF). The four pressurized water reactors have a net power output of 910 megawatts ( MW) and a gross capacity of 951 MW. The total installed capacity is 3804 MW, making it one nuclear power plant to the larger in France. Every year, it feeds an average of 24 billion kilowatt hours into the public power grid.
The Gironde is used to cool the plant taken by underwater cables to a length of 400 meters of water, which removed after the cooling process of the reactors in the center of the estuary, 2.2 km from the shore, is fed back into the river. This distance is the one needed to allow the heated water is not sucked in again, and on the other, so that the water is cool and far enough back out away into the river from the shore to the habitat of the fish that reside primarily in the shore area, not too much to bother.
The construction of the first two reactor units was begun on 1 January 1977. Block 1 was 12 June 1981, and Unit 2 on 17 July 1982. On April 1, 1978, started the construction of two additional reactor units, which were put into operation on 16 May 1983, on 17 August 1983.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tikib wrote:In my opinion by the end of this year we will enter the era of business unusual. The price of oil will go above $100, a price from which it will never drop. Instead it will gradually rise and rise.
Tikib wrote:Nuclear power is the most economic form of energy we have besides fossil fuel. So we will naturally switch to it. If it will save us or not depends what you mean by save I guess.
Pops wrote:Tik, don't start anymore nuke threads.
By my count this is at least your 10th thread making the very same argument. Starting a bunch of similar threads is against the rules, doesn't add to your argument and actually dilutes your "message." Everyone has a hobby horse and you can beat yours silly in every post but no more new threads.
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I think society should continue research on nukes until we find a simple clean solution. I don't know much about it but anything that leaves behind dangerous waste for 14 billion years is pretty well off the table I'd think.
In the rich world conservation is the key to mitigating PO in the short run. That of course is also the danger of PO, since conservation in this case means less driving and driving usually means either earning or spending. Less driving means lower GDP because we are a consumption economy. In a thread "the price of collapse" (or some such) I wrote that the only way to be able to afford to extract more expensive oil is to get more value from the oil we extract.
Americans are the worst as far as structural waste, everyone else uses much less oil per capita than we do. The average US male between 35 & 64 drives 18,858 miles per year. That is 51-2/3 miles per day, every day of the year! That is pretty astounding to me. Link
Increasing fleet mileage (CAFE) is a good thing in the long run, but in the short run it is the old Jeavon's Paracox all over, it allows people to maintain the "structural" waste in how they organize their little world (long commutes, low density housing, globalised food chain, etc) and lets them put off making big changes. US miles driven is increasing and at a new high after falling for 5 or 6 years.
I agree tho, electric is how we'll get around in the future, the medium term anyway, while we coast on the fumes of the previously extracted and invested.
ennui2 wrote:Tikib wrote:In my opinion by the end of this year we will enter the era of business unusual. The price of oil will go above $100, a price from which it will never drop. Instead it will gradually rise and rise.
So you're predicting that by the end of the year we fall sharply off the peak-oil plateau? Why? You give NO evidence backing up your prediction other than a vague feeling. This is a classic shoot-from-the-hip doomer prediction of the sort that sets you up to look like a complete idiot if it doesn't pan out.
Are you sure you want to roll with this?
GHung wrote:Tikib: "If we just ignore agw and concentrate on peak oil here."
Pretty much any discussion beyond that becomes invalid; if not purely academic. Tikib's denial exists on numerous levels.
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