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Re: Buffet Now on My SOS list.

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 28 Sep 2008, 19:33:57

nobodypanic wrote:how about them cowboys? :lol:


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Re: Buffet Now on My SOS list.

Unread postby Kristen » Sun 28 Sep 2008, 19:41:13

Well bigtex, I suppose Buffet can live, but there has to be some accountability for those breaking the rules.
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Re: Buffet Now on My SOS list.

Unread postby Ferretlover » Sun 28 Sep 2008, 19:44:53

Wonder what tar and feathers are going for these days??
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Re: Buffet Now on My SOS list.

Unread postby hironegro » Mon 29 Sep 2008, 00:10:09

bigtex is a buffet booster
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Re: Buffet Now on My SOS list.

Unread postby BigTex » Mon 29 Sep 2008, 00:13:04

hironegro wrote:bigtex is a buffet booster


He's not for everyone, but I like him.
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Re: Buffet Now on My SOS list.

Unread postby hironegro » Mon 29 Sep 2008, 00:31:19

BigTex wrote:
hironegro wrote:bigtex is a buffet booster


He's not for everyone, but I like him.


He pays his secretary 60,000 dollars year!!!
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Re: Buffet Now on My SOS list.

Unread postby BigTex » Mon 29 Sep 2008, 08:07:37

hironegro wrote:He pays his secretary 60,000 dollars year!!!

He pays himself $100,000 a year. $60,000 a year in Omaha, NE isn't bad.
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Re: Buffet Now on My SOS list.

Unread postby VMarcHart » Mon 29 Sep 2008, 09:25:08

I feel I need to take one for the Buffett team, BTW, spelled with 2 T's.

Buffett is not Mr Perfect by miles, but all-in-all, I know very few 78-yo guys who don't live off a Gov't pension, drives himself (in a Chevy), has his house paid for, has no debt, still active and sound.

Like BigTex said, Buffett is not for everybody, but of all self-proclaimed financial gurus out there, he's definitely one of the few not sucking on tax payers money. I even like Buffett more than Greenspan.

I can't remember any of his investments/companies going down in flames. Does anyone?
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Re: Buffet Now on My SOS list.

Unread postby VMarcHart » Mon 29 Sep 2008, 09:29:42

BigTex wrote:
hironegro wrote:
BigTex wrote:
hironegro wrote:bigtex is a buffet booster
He's not for everyone, but I like him.
He pays his secretary 60,000 dollars year!!!
He pays himself $100,000 a year. $60,000 a year in Omaha, NE isn't bad.
According to the Cost of Living Calculator on CNNMoney.com, $60K in Ohama is about $76K in Chicago. I'm sure there are, but I don't know anyone paying $76K for a secretary in Chicago.
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Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby madpaddler » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 14:32:54

Well guys if Buffett is saying this, we are in for way more than can be imagined...this thing really has me scared shiatless now. Let the string of banks and business closures begin. Mine being one.

Buffett: Bailout may not be big enough
Investment guru says $700 billion bailout is crucial, but that it may not be large enough to solve the credit crisis.
By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer
Last Updated: October 2, 2008: 1:00 PM ET

(Fortune) -- Warren Buffett said Thursday that it is crucial to the global economy that the controversial $700 billion Wall Street bailout passes, but warned that the pricetag may have to rise.

Buffett also proposed that the U.S. Treasury Department and private investors team up to buy the troubled mortgage assets behind the crisis gripping markets worldwide.

"If we don't get [this] solved next week, I may go back to delivering papers," said Buffett during an appearance at Fortune's Most Powerful Women Summit in Aviara, Calif.

Buffett, the chairman and CEO of Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A), likened the recent turmoil in the markets to an "economic Pearl Harbor" and said that a quick response is needed.

"We've never seen anything like this where perfectly credit-worthy companies can't get funds," he said.

He didn't estimate how much more money would be needed to buy enough toxic mortgage investments in order to create a more stable market and get credit flowing. On Wednesday, the Senate passed a $700 billion bailout package. The House is expected to vote on the revised bill on Friday, four days after rejecting an earlier version.

Buffett suggested that a partnership between Treasury and private investors to buy the assets.

"One easy way to do part of the program is to say to anybody - hedge fund operators, Wall Street firms, or anybody else - that the Treasury will lend you 80% of the purchase cost of a bunch of distressed assets," he said, explaining the concept of his proposal. The investors benefit from borrowing at lower rates, but Treasury gets first claims any returns from the sale of those assets before investors would get a penny.

"Now you have someone with 20% skin in the game," he explained. "Believe me I won't be overpaying if I'm buying with that kind of leverage. And you have someone [the investors] to manage the assets to the extent they need to be managed."

Buffett said that the bill that passed the Senate Wednesday evening isn't perfect, but that it's crucial to prevent the global economy from grinding to a halt. He then warned it will take a while to work and that the economy is going to struggle even with its passage.

"Anyone who thinks this bill is a panacea is [making] a mistake," he said. "Without it, it's a disaster."
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Re: Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby dinopello » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 14:56:33

He's not acting so gloomy though with his 5 billion pledge to GS and his 3 billion pledge to GE. When you look at how much skin he, as an individual, has in the game it does make 700 billion look less daunting.
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Re: Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 14:57:29

Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Something in range of 70000B should do though.

That is about a size of current clusterf*ck at risk.

Poor American taxpayers...
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Re: Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby Eli » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 15:03:18

dinopello wrote:He's not acting so gloomy though with his 5 billion pledge to GS and his 3 billion pledge to GE. When you look at how much skin he, as an individual, has in the game it does make 700 billion look less daunting.


Buffet is a jerk, He is getting sweetheart deals with these companies and buying preferred stock at below market prices, yet he wants the US taxpayer to buy crap sandwich assets at above market prices.

He can go to hell. If the current plan involved the US taxpayer getting preferred stock like he is then this bill would have no problems passing at this point.

Again screw Grandpa Warren.
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Re: Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby dinopello » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 15:13:35

Eli wrote:
dinopello wrote:He's not acting so gloomy though with his 5 billion pledge to GS and his 3 billion pledge to GE. When you look at how much skin he, as an individual, has in the game it does make 700 billion look less daunting.


Buffet is a jerk, He is getting sweetheart deals with these companies and buying preferred stock at below market prices, yet he wants the US taxpayer to buy crap sandwich assets at above market prices.

He can go to hell. If the current plan involved the US taxpayer getting preferred stock like he is then this bill would have no problems passing at this point.

Again screw Grandpa Warren.


Sounds smart to me. I wouldn't turn down a sweetheart deal right about now. Personally I'd rather us take the trillion and spend it on tangible things like rebuilding rail and walkable towns but that would help Buffet too since he bought up all that rail stock a while ago.
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Re: Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby joeltrout » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 15:39:51

dinopello wrote:He's not acting so gloomy though with his 5 billion pledge to GS and his 3 billion pledge to GE. When you look at how much skin he, as an individual, has in the game it does make 700 billion look less daunting.


Actually you are totally wrong but don't know it until you listen to this interview.

Buffet Interview

He says if the bill does not pass then he made a very big mistake.

He even offers to put up his money for 1% of the bailout amount.

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Re: Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby joeltrout » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 15:42:40

joeltrout wrote:
dinopello wrote:He's not acting so gloomy though with his 5 billion pledge to GS and his 3 billion pledge to GE. When you look at how much skin he, as an individual, has in the game it does make 700 billion look less daunting.


Actually you are totally wrong but don't know it until you listen to this interview.

Buffet Interview

He says if the bill does not pass then he made a very big mistake.

He even offers to put up his money for 1% of the bailout amount.

joeltrout


Hopefully this link will work.

Buffet Interview

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Re: Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby dinopello » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 15:46:46

joeltrout wrote:He says if the bill does not pass then he made a very big mistake.


He also says he might be back to delivering newspapers. Maybe a little overstated ? Anyway, I wish him luck because many of my investments are very close to his NSC, BNI and GE.
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Re: Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby Eli » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 17:05:25

Buffet actually was talking about a plan on CNN that is much better than this current pork orgy we have now.

Still he should still stand up as an American and denounce this current plan because of what it does to US taxpayers.
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Re: Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby mefistofeles » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 19:56:34

Buffet should have kept his silver. Buying financial assets while the markets and banks crash.

I think Buffet has a great track record but it also indicates something else, he is overdue for a major mistake.

Its hard to see why he would deal with this toxic waste and all these accounting catastrophes. A few million ounces of silver looks like a spectacular investment now.
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Re: Buffett on the fact 700B is not enough

Unread postby oilluber » Thu 02 Oct 2008, 22:25:50

I would think 1 trillion/year for 5 yrs would be the most reasonable
amount needed to bailout the financial sector.
Even that won't solve the loss of their business model.
They will have to invent some other financial instrument bubble.
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