Thus, the real dilemma of coping peak oil, for a while at least, is really quite simple. If the government should lay out the full ramifications of peaking in hopes of rallying the people to make preparations, the most immediate consequence is likely to be serious economic setback triggered by an unambiguous announcement itself.
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So there you have it. The GAO did their job by warning the Congress that peak oil might just be a very serious problem very soon, and the DOW is still going up. Sometimes government agencies are not that dumb after all!
Twilight wrote:If people are not aware, it matters little whether the government is aware. There really is very little any government can do about a structural problem on this scale without public participation. Maybe the only intelligent thing they're doing is prolonging the party if they know it is too late to act in any manner at all.
Jack wrote:Now, KillJOY - you know we can't upset the proles or outer party members. That would be double-plus ungood.
MonteQuest wrote:
Or maybe they plan to smother peak oil under a shroud of war.
Or shift the blame and cause to terrorism. More war.
Bottom line.
More war.
JPL wrote:MonteQuest wrote:
Or maybe they plan to smother peak oil under a shroud of war.
Or shift the blame and cause to terrorism. More war.
Bottom line.
More war.
Without fossil fuels, that's not possible -
Anyhow, what would be the point?
Battle_Scarred_Galactico wrote:Anyhow, what would be the point?
The point would be to kill another group to take their resources, the way the world has always worked.
MonteQuest wrote:
700 million barrels of SPR will fuel a lot of war.
We produce 5 mbpd in the US.
JPL wrote:
But I still say, what for? If you take our 5, and put it with your 5, that's still not enough oil (pleuugh). So what do we all do?
MonteQuest wrote:JPL wrote:
But I still say, what for? If you take our 5, and put it with your 5, that's still not enough oil (pleuugh). So what do we all do?
Fight until it is all gone.
This is not my plan or my notion.
This is how it has always been.
JPL wrote:Post-medieval Europe after the first Black Death, for example. When 50% of the population died and a lot of the farmland went back to scrub-land. Roads were left un-made and whole villages & towns were abandoned.
It was 100+ years before the European economy recovered to the point where people 'needed' resources. Wars weren't possible, during the post-medieval 'transition stage', there just wasn't the manpower to do it...JPL
DesertBear2 wrote:JPL wrote:Post-medieval Europe after the first Black Death, for example. When 50% of the population died and a lot of the farmland went back to scrub-land. Roads were left un-made and whole villages & towns were abandoned.
It was 100+ years before the European economy recovered to the point where people 'needed' resources. Wars weren't possible, during the post-medieval 'transition stage', there just wasn't the manpower to do it...JPL
My knowledge of 14th Century is not the best but it seems that there was quite a bit of warfare after the black plague events.
Black Plague 1348-50
Hundred Years War 1337-1453
"The 14th century gives us back two contradictory images: on the one hand a glittering time of crusades and chivalry and exquisitely illuminated Books of Hours; on the other, a time of ferocity and and spiritual agony- a world plunged into chaos. These are the years when the black death struck in the great plague of 1348 -50, killing more than a third of the entire population between India and Iceland, and returned four times during the rest of the century...when freebooting companies of brigands terorized Europe with impunity ...when a "hundred years' war" seemed to have no beginning and no end, and defying the belligerents own efforts to end it, acquired a life of it's own, "an epic of brutality and bravery checered by disgrace". -- Barbara Tuchman, A Distant Mirror
MonteQuest wrote:Fight until it is all gone.
This is not my plan or my notion.
Newsseeker wrote:Resource wars will be constrained by oil and mobility. The governments will have to provide fuel for their own citizens and will be unable to project their forces far beyond their border. The real oil grab will occur through oil contracts and commerce.
Just my opinion.
Seems the only thing constraining the current resource war is public opinion and resistance of the occupied country
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