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THE Tar Sands Thread (merged)

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166 Million Birds Could Die If Tar Sands Mining expands

Unread postby cualcrees » Thu 04 Dec 2008, 13:38:16

FTA:
"We’ve highlighted many times the unmitigated environmental horror of the Alberta Tar Sands, but one aspect which we haven’t pointed out is the impact on migratory birds. A new peer-reviewed report has just been released by the NRDC which details the impact on avian populations from continued exploitation of these unconventional fuels."

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Re: 166 Million Birds Could Die If Tar Sands Mining expands

Unread postby mefistofeles » Thu 04 Dec 2008, 14:49:50

At current prices its hard to see how Tar Sands production can eve continue.
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Re: 166 Million Birds Could Die If Tar Sands Mining expands

Unread postby KrellEnergySource » Thu 04 Dec 2008, 14:56:36

A bigger threat to birds.....

http://birdchaser.blogspot.com/2008/03/ ... -each.html


But it is one more strike against the tar sands mining. As if any more were really needed.


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Re: 166 Million Birds Could Die If Tar Sands Mining expands

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 04 Dec 2008, 14:59:39

If I ever have another cat I think I'll take them outside on a leash.
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Re: 166 Million Birds Could Die If Tar Sands Mining expands

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Thu 04 Dec 2008, 15:08:35

8) Skim through it and you find that the 166 million (amazing how precise the number is) are what might be killed over 30 to 50 years. A lot of hype here.
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Re: Tar Sands A Total Waste

Unread postby RdSnt » Thu 04 Dec 2008, 15:33:48

ColossalContrarian wrote: My own suspicion has been that the number was higher than that, and I once did a back of the envelope based on some industry energy usage numbers that put the number at about 8/1 (for just the oil production step)."

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What do you mean by "just the oil production step", the mining and extraction of tar from sand? or the conversion of that tar to something usable?
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Re: 166 Million Birds Could Die If Tar Sands Mining expands

Unread postby eastbay » Thu 04 Dec 2008, 17:58:47

Maybe this is how all the birds died in the soon to be released movie, The Road.
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Re: THE Tar Sands Thread (merged)

Unread postby Graeme » Thu 26 Apr 2012, 19:45:23

Tar Sands Production In America Is Closer Than You Think

Before long the tar sands issue won’t be just about imports from Canada via pipeline.

Utah, which has never met a dirty fuel it didn’t love, has been encouraging efforts to develop a home-grown tar sands industry. Construction on a project located on state lands in the eastern part of the state could begin by the end of the year, according to a story in Environment and Energy Publishing’s Energy Wire:

“It’s not just something that’s up in Canada,” Utah Tar Sands Resistance member Raphael Cordray told E&E. “People don’t know it’s here in Utah. Our goal is to get the citizens of Utah to recognize that there’s a proposed tar sands site in Utah that could become the first commercial site in America, and what is at stake.”

Utah has about a third of the roughly 36 billion barrels of tar sands oil thought to be located in the U.S. Not all of that is estimated to be technically or commercially recoverable, however. Tar sands contain a form of petroleum called bitumen that can be refined into gasoline. But the process is costly, energy-intensive, and on a life-cycle basis releases far more global warming pollutants than conventional oil refining operations.


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Re: 166 Million Birds Could Die If Tar Sands Mining expands

Unread postby Cog » Thu 26 Apr 2012, 19:46:52

mefistofeles wrote:At current prices its hard to see how Tar Sands production can eve continue.


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