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THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 14 Oct 2016, 13:58:42

http://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch ... mi/411970/

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The Most Destructive Wave in Earth’s (Known) History
Geologists have discovered evidence of an ancient 560-foot mega-tsunami.


...a 1,000-foot mega-tsunami slammed into the island of Lanai.


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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 14 Oct 2016, 15:28:47

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ca ... _blog.html

The second time bomb is a mega-tsunami caused by a massive landslide as a large section of La Palma, one of the Canary Islands in the Eastern Atlantic, collapses into the ocean following a volcanic eruption of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on La Palma. If (when) this occurs, modeling results indicate a wall of water up to 300 feet high would race across the Atlantic and reach the East Coast in about nine hours with devastating effects.


Hopefully during the swearing in ceremony!
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 14 Oct 2016, 15:49:59

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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 14 Oct 2016, 19:08:47

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/c ... ign=buffer

King tides arriving in South Florida with extra swell from Hurricane Nicole

The annual king tides are beginning to rise in South Florida, submerging docks, flooding low-lying streets and spilling over seawalls.

The tides are not expected to peak until Monday, but offshore winds from Hurricane Nicole are causing local water to swell about a foot over predictions, giving the region a preview of the rising tides.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 14 Oct 2016, 20:23:30

dohboi wrote:http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/10/traces-of-an-ancient-mega-tsunami/411970/

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The Most Destructive Wave in Earth’s (Known) History
Geologists have discovered evidence of an ancient 560-foot mega-tsunami.


...a 1,000-foot mega-tsunami slammed into the island of Lanai.


Makes me wonder what world sea level was when the Tsunami happened. We know that 3 to 5 million ybp sea level was considerably higher than today, on the order of 40 feet higher. 40 feet of water has a heck of a lot of energy in it if it is moving as part of a Tsunami. I reckon it could throw stuff a lot further than we expect with our lower sea level today.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby Subjectivist » Tue 01 Nov 2016, 03:22:13

Scientists have discovered a "lake" in the Gulf of Mexico. Everyone, who enters this pool at the bottom of the sea will suffer horribly. Erik Cordes, associate professor of biology at Temple University, has researched the pool and described his findings in the journal Oceanography.

“It was one of the most amazing things in the deep sea. You go down into the bottom of the ocean and you are looking at a lake or a river flowing. It feels like you are not on this world", Cordes told Discovery News.

It feels like you are not on this world"
The water in the "lake within the sea" is about five times as salty as the water surrounding it. It also contains highly toxic concentrations of methane and hydrogen sulfide and can thus not mix with the surrounding sea.

For animals (and people) who swim into it, these toxic concentrations can be deadly. Only bacterial life, tube worms and shrimp can survive those circumstances.


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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby kiwichick » Sun 13 Nov 2016, 20:16:23

15 year rolling average at all time high for SST's around Australia

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/#t ... timeseries
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 18 Nov 2016, 20:28:13

MV Ocean Warrior. Sea Shelards new ship

http://gcaptain.com/mv-ocean-warrior-se ... e-whalers/

MV Ocean Warrior – Sea Shepherd’s New Weapon in Fight Against Japanese Whalers

Photo credit: Paul Watson/Sea Shepherd
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In January 2015, the controversial whale warriors Sea Shepherd Conservation Society won 8.3 million euro from the Postcode Lotteries in the Netherlands and UK to put towards the construction of a new custom-built patrol ship to battle Japanese whalers in the Southern Ocean.

To build their dream ship, Sea Shepherd turned to Dutch shipbuilder Damen Group for a modified version of the Fast Crew Supplier. Just 18 months later, Sea Shepherd commissioned the Ocean Warrior, the fastest, most high-tech, efficient and capable vessel to ever join the fleet.

In September, the Ocean Warrior, rumored to cost $12 million, departed Antalya, Turkey on its maiden voyage to Australia, via Amsterdam and Italy, to participate in Sea Shepherds 11th Antarctic whale defense campaign in the South Ocean beginning this December.

Here’s a closer look at the vessel:
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 19 Nov 2016, 10:28:25

You know the media attention hogs like Sea Shepherd really do a lot of damage. They draw funds away from alternatives because they make a big media splash. If all the money wasted on Sea Shepherd were instead used to advertise the risks of whaling in Japan where it would influence the consumers of whale meat it would likely do a lot more to slow or even end whaling by Japanese companies.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby Newfie » Sat 19 Nov 2016, 11:57:00

Tanada,

To my knowledge Sea Shepard does not solicit for funds. Instead they rely upon their antics to advertise and drum up suPoorly and money. But some of their stuff is pretty low key yet effective. Did you follow their efforts to destroy the rogue Chilean sea bass (I think) fleet. They managed to get all 4 ships to scuttle themselves or be confiscated.

But whatever it takes. I often feel guilty when eating fish. I love watching whales especially humpbacks. Just big kids splashing in the tub.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby pstarr » Sat 19 Nov 2016, 12:07:11

Tanada wrote:You know the media attention hogs like Sea Shepherd really do a lot of damage. They draw funds away from alternatives because they make a big media splash. If all the money wasted on Sea Shepherd were instead used to advertise the risks of whaling in Japan where it would influence the consumers of whale meat it would likely do a lot more to slow or even end whaling by Japanese companies.
Tanada, the Sea Shepard volunteers have broadcast their commitment to their own cause. That is the strategy of the leader, has a more profound affect on the compliant masses than just simply posting more information. They posted a horrifying and profound ecological tragedy in real time.

I doubt whales are any more intelligent than other animals. (Otherwise they would display some simple obvious emergency behavior to communicate their distress to the ship's crew). But that is no excuse for engaging in cruel torture on the high seas. Sometime direct action is the only way to go.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby dohboi » Sat 19 Nov 2016, 20:42:16

Good points.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 21 Nov 2016, 09:23:16

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/carbo ... ma1vr.html

carbon dioxide concentrations could reach levels high enough to disorient and “intoxicate” fish, a condition known as hypercapnia

Essentially, the fish become lost at sea

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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

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ocean acidification could drive a cascading loss of biodiversity in some marine habitats


Jennifer M. Sunday, Katharina E. Fabricius, Kristy J. Kroeker, Kathryn M. Anderson, Norah E. Brown, James P. Barry, Sean D. Connell, Sam Dupont, Brian Gaylord, Jason M. Hall-Spencer, Terrie Klinger, Marco Milazzo, Philip L. Munday, Bayden D. Russell, Eric Sanford, Vengatesen Thiyagarajan, Megan L. H. Vaughan, Stephen Widdicombe & Christopher D. G. Harley (2016), "Ocean acidification can mediate biodiversity shifts by changing biogenic habitat", Nature Climate Change, doi:10.1038/nclimate3161


http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/ ... e3161.html

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The effects of ocean acidification (OA) on the structure and complexity of coastal marine biogenic habitat have been broadly overlooked. Here we explore how declining pH and carbonate saturation may affect the structural complexity of four major biogenic habitats.

Our analyses predict that indirect effects driven by OA on habitat-forming organisms could lead to lower species diversity in coral reefs, mussel beds and some macroalgal habitats, but increases in seagrass and other macroalgal habitats.

Available in situ data support the prediction of decreased biodiversity in coral reefs, but not the prediction of seagrass bed gains. Thus, OA-driven habitat loss may exacerbate the direct negative effects of OA on coastal biodiversity; however, we lack evidence of the predicted biodiversity increase in systems where habitat-forming species could benefit from acidification. Overall, a combination of direct effects and community-mediated indirect effects will drive changes in the extent and structural complexity of biogenic habitat, which will have important ecosystem effects.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

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https://robertscribbler.com/2016/11/22/ ... ent-100049

Why the Global Coral Bleaching Event That Began in 2014 May Just Keep Going and Going
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby onlooker » Sat 26 Nov 2016, 21:00:36

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/24/scien ... .html?_r=0
Perils of Climate Change Could Swamp Coastal Real Estate

Homeowners are slowly growing wary of
buying property in the areas most at risk,
setting up a potential economic time bomb
in an industry that is struggling to adapt.
I think Ibon should hurry to sell while demand for waterfront property remains
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby dohboi » Sun 27 Nov 2016, 14:03:22

More from ol's link:

State lawmakers in Massachusetts and New Jersey are pushing to impose new rules on real estate agents and others, obligating them to disclose climate-related damage like previous flooding.

Banks and insurers need to protect their collateral and investors more by improving their methods for estimating climate-change risks and creating more standardized rules for reporting them publicly, economists warn.

In April, Sean Becketti, the chief economist for Freddie Mac, the government-backed mortgage giant, issued a dire prediction. It is only a matter of time, he wrote, before sea level rise and storm surges become so unbearable along the coast that people will leave, ditching their mortgages and potentially triggering another housing meltdown — except this time, it would be unlikely that these housing prices would ever recover.


I, too, immediately thought about our dear Ibon!
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby Newfie » Sun 27 Nov 2016, 18:31:51

You guys remember that Miami real estate article I liked to some time back. The one where they acknowledged SLR and went on to say they had to build and develop like crazy befor the public became aware?
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby dohboi » Sun 27 Nov 2016, 23:34:02

there's a nice piece here on sand erosion:

http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/17/1366 ... ate-change
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