claman wrote:Come on Sixstrings, we are all with you, just like you are with us.
Denmarks 27 new F-35's will help keep the South Baltics clean of unwanted ships so you don't have to worry about being attacked from the back
Are you Danish? Am I waving the American flag too much? I like Denmark, I wish we had Denmark's domestic policies.
I was speaking from an American perspective, about the importance of allies and that this $580 billion military budget we have to fund, actually really does do some good in the world.
And that our defense and security is greatly enhanced by having allies (as is Denmark's, if you're Danish) -- if most of the world is sticking together, then we can all be safe, and it really is the best future.
Anti establishment is so popular now, but really, the democratic capitalist global order breaking up would mean A LOT *more* WAR and it would be the chaotic messy war of regional powers all slugging it out and then international trade gets ruined too, and economic depression, all our economies would go to crap (and OUR money and assets, as individuals in the West).
Chaos isn't good. A lot of people are voting for it lately, but it's concerning.. just because things are a bit bad doesn't mean it's a good idea to tear everything down.. then there's nothing at all.
And now, hypersonic missile swarms are the new big thing -- that kind of chaotic future WITHOUT a benevolent global order alliance around anymore wouldn't be good, from any standpoint. Or, a global order to prevent nuclear proliferation and every random dictator and idiot having NUKE armed hypersonic missile swarms.
Establishment ain't so bad, maybe. When the Roman Empire establishment fell, centuries of DARK AGES ensued.
Russia may like a chaotic world that's breaking up, simply because they just want to claw up in the world a bit and they don't care so much about chaos, they could take advantage of chaos, but it would be bad for the WORLD as a whole.
Europe and the US and even China have to be concerned with stability and peace, our interest in the West is NOT in "shaking it all up" and crashing it. That's a RISING power's interest, that's got nothing to lose.
As far as global new world orders go -- democratic capitalist, with democracy and human rights values.. that's really the best, if there must be a "world order" then at least it's that.
In a place like Poland, and elsewhere in east europe, a lot of the people really do CARE about democracy and democratic principles.. because they still have a memory of the inverse, the USSR and Warsaw Pact. Some of these east euros are the best defenders of democracy. They know what it's like, without it.
So that is a component too, there REALLY IS that "democratic values" part of "democratic capitalism." It's NOT all BS. A far right wing fascist government will do things like suppress free speech and the media, and the right to protest, and they shut down opposition, and it's an iron curtain overall and without freedom then you don't even have much innovation anymore.
These things matter. They're values, WESTERN values, and it's the SAME in Denmark as in Canada, Australia, Poland, Japan and South Korea.
We're all allies for a reason -- we're the democracies of the world.
About the F-35 -- that's a tangible benefit of alliance, and it benefits the US too that the allies shared in the cost and development. Together, we can all do more, versus being divided.
For a country like the UK, or Denmark -- 27 F-35's is actually a heck of an air force.