peakoilwhen wrote:New annual record supply set : 96.9 Mb/d ave - 2016, previous record 96.6 Mb/d ave 2015
New quarterly record supply set : 97.9 Md/d ave - 2016, previous record 97.4 Mb/d ave 2015
peakoilwhen wrote:Rockdoc was beaten by me, an industry outsider, with no XP, with no PHD or degree in oil.
peakoilwhen wrote:ask rockman or study my sources if you don't trust my word.
Cog wrote:Unconventional oil burns just as bright as the conventional stuff. Who would have thunk it? LOL
AdamB wrote:peakoilwhen wrote:New annual record supply set : 96.9 Mb/d ave - 2016, previous record 96.6 Mb/d ave 2015
New quarterly record supply set : 97.9 Md/d ave - 2016, previous record 97.4 Mb/d ave 2015
Well...obviously the answer is we just choose to count SOME of the oil, based on color, density, or under who's land it sits (sitting under water doesn't count I think). That is how people have claimed peak oil all those times before, and still think they are right.
Turns out that 42 degree API light sweet crude coming out of the unconventional oi fields of North Dakota isn't the same as 42 degree API light sweet coming out of a field in Texas...well..some claim that, but I don't think they know much about organic chemistry I think.
AdamB wrote:peakoilwhen wrote:Rockdoc was beaten by me, an industry outsider, with no XP, with no PHD or degree in oil.
Says you! RockDoc knew Matt Simmons was full of crap and couldn't even regurgitate SPE papers correctly, if he says you were full of the brown stuff, it must be so! But it sounds as though you were both wrong, because real experts said peak oil was 2005 or 2006. Some died suspiciously afterwards, which signifies that they must have been right and were silenced, according to some peak oilers.
If this was true we would be drowning in oil by now. Have you done the math on this? We are extracting about a cubic mile of oil every year. The Earth is a little over 4.5 billion years old. So if the Earth is really creating more oil every year than we are extracting, then just to equal our extraction rate that would be 1 cubic mile every year, or 4.5 billion cubic miles of oil over the age of the earth. That would be an order of magnitude more oil than all of the water on earth. It's more than the entire volume of Earth's crust. I can understand being frustrated at people who "know" oil peaked in 2005, 2010, etc. But latching on to ridiculous theories like abiotic oil is even more erroneous.peakoilwhen wrote:I'm pleased to see the truth is finally getting out and about. While I've been away from here for the last few years, I've been able to research the origins of oil, and there is no doubt - oil, like all mineral hydrocarbon, is abiotic, created in the deep Earth. It continues to be created in colossal quanitys every day. Geologic peakoil can never happen, because humans cannot extract oil faster than the Earth makes it. There is a greater reserve of oil in the ground today than ever before, and tomorrow there will be more.
kublikhan wrote:If this was true we would be drowning in oil by now. Have you done the math on this? We are extracting about a cubic mile of oil every year. The Earth is a little over 4.5 billion years old. So if the Earth is really creating more oil every year than we are extracting, then just to equal our extraction rate that would be 1 cubic mile every year, or 4.5 billion cubic miles of oil over the age of the earth. That would be an order of magnitude more oil than all of the water on earth. It's more than the entire volume of Earth's crust. I can understand being frustrated at people who "know" oil peaked in 2005, 2010, etc. But latching on to ridiculous theories like abiotic oil is even more erroneous.peakoilwhen wrote:I'm pleased to see the truth is finally getting out and about. While I've been away from here for the last few years, I've been able to research the origins of oil, and there is no doubt - oil, like all mineral hydrocarbon, is abiotic, created in the deep Earth. It continues to be created in colossal quanitys every day. Geologic peakoil can never happen, because humans cannot extract oil faster than the Earth makes it. There is a greater reserve of oil in the ground today than ever before, and tomorrow there will be more.
Rockman does not agree with your position that the rate of oil accumulation is high enough to offset our extraction rates. IE, Peak Oil is still a problem regardless of how oil is generated: abiotic or organic.hi kub. nice to read your rational posts again.
you know rockman, arguably the 2nd most respected petrologist on PO.com has converted to abiotic theory. How have you 2 got along recently?
Yes, a cubic mile of oil. Today the deep Earth can replace that. But half a billion years ago it probably wouldn't have. The rate of new mass output has increased greatly in the last hundred million years. Today its more than ever, and continues to increase.
The new material output of the deep Earth is around 2740 cubic miles of mass per year. Not all of it is oil, but a small part is.
Has the danger of Peak Oil passed?ROCKMAN wrote:Hman - Good analogy with one qualification: ground water can replenish in a time scale usefull for humans. Oil, be it abiotic or organic, won't. In none of the MILLIONS of wells drilled in the last hundred years has a single oil reservoir been shown to have accumulated any more recent then a few million years.hvacman wrote:So, if I understand the RM right, we can look at oil kind of like ground water in California. It doesn't matter if the aquifer is filled solely with "fossil" water that was trapped millennia ago or if it is also recharged yearly via rain, snowmelt, or horizontal groundwater movement from other surface sources. If the reservoir is pumped faster than it replenishes (if it is replenished at all) and eventually depletes to the point you have to back off or stop production, you got a peak water problem, at least in that reservoir, regardless of the "source" of that reservoir's ground water. Add up all the known reservoirs - if the sum total of all is in reduced production status - you got a regional or global peak (fill-in-the-blank) problem.
Subjectivist wrote:I am not a big beliver in abiotic oil, but the theory of the oil flooded Earth is also goofy. To get oceans of oil there would have to be zero oxygen in the atmosphere, if you had oil all over the air would oxidize it back to water vapor and CO2.
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