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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby eastbay » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 00:25:42

271 KWH for $31.84 for the month of April in this 1800 sq ft average house near Portland.


$.1175 each. Not bad. Cheap.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby bodigami » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 01:52:11

What about the total KW used by all of you, fellow posters?
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 09:08:27

Here's my year with TXU...
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      Average
Date      Temp   KWH   bill         $ / kwh
May/2008   81   1494   $192.98    0.1292
Apr/2008   76   866   $107.77    0.1244
Mar/2008   71   819   $102.61    0.1253
Feb/2008   66   654   $84.47      0.1292
Jan/2008   56   941   $116.01    0.1233
Dec/2007   64   913   $112.94    0.1237
Nov/2007   71   807   $101.29    0.1255
Oct/2007   85   1252   $150.19    0.1200
Sep/2007   91   1969   $267.77    0.1360
Aug/2007   93   2270   $307.97    0.1357
Jul/2007   88   2246   $279.76    0.1246
Jun/2007   87   2155   $292.61    0.1358
May/2007   82   1409   $201.56    0.1431

I didn't break out fees and taxes. I just divided my actual bill amount by the KiloWattHours.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 10:28:54

TommyJefferson wrote:Here's my year with TXU...
Average
Date Temp KWH bill $ / kwh

I like how they include the average temperature. Dividing your bill amount by kwh seems to be the easiest way of calculating that.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby eastbay » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 10:45:22

Holy cow TJ. You pay a lot! I bet we're under $400/yr!! And if not for this G5 Apple it would be maybe closer to $300.

What do you have [s]growing[/s] going out there anyhow?? 8O
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby lawnchair » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 11:09:53

I find this to be an interesting topic, because it seems no one has a really good sense of what "average" is. It's hard to find online.

Over the last year, 2-person, 1050-sq-ft, 50-year-old house. Kansas. 4928 kWh/$422.21 = 8.57c/kWh.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby IndigoMoon » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 11:40:19

This is from my April bill. 1600 sq ft house, 3 adults, built in 1942.
Our average use stays around 1000 KWH / month year round.
My electric company is Ohio Edison. The KWH charge is undefined because they have a sliding scale. The higher the usage, the higher the KWH charge.

Customer Charge 3.86
Delivery Charge 33.19
Transition Charge 8.69
Generation Related Component 66.98
Transmission Related Component 8.70
Field Collection Charge 7.00
Total Charges $ 128.42

Present KWH Reading (Actual) 71,278
Previous KWH Reading (Actual) 70,290
Kilowatt Hours Used 988
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby municipal » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 12:19:04

Ours is 0.035 in the northwest next to Grand coulee dam.
(3.5 cents)
So, why do you think MICROSTUFT and GOOGLE and YAHOO are building huge computer switching buildings 10 miles fromQuincy? They are GREEN but they like their DAMS too funny!
Ask them about saving then fish, yah shore.
Since it is 33 KWH per gallon of gasoline or diesel then electricity is cheaper than propane or ooil by about four times.
We expect to do fine after the oil crash, the community has first dibs on the power before they can sell it off to others. We pay what it costs to produce it and transmit it, the rest they can sell for profit.
anyone burning coal or oil or propane around here is loony.

Er, we WOULD do fine unless they nook the dam.
10 years ago the rate was 1.7 or about 2 cents per KW
Oh, and the green people were picketing the dam last month to remove the grand coulee dam so fish can run up where they havent run in 40 years.
Guess we could go to burning coal then.
Downstream the air temp is cool, like an airconditioner. The Dam contributes to global cooling, maybe that is why all around the world we are having ice storms in may.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby TheDude » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 01:50:42

eastbay wrote:271 KWH for $31.84 for the month of April in this 1800 sq ft average house near Portland.
$.1175 each. Not bad. Cheap.

You with PGE, eBay? I'm getting 13.6 c/Kwh, plus funky charges for things like the Biglow Canyon 1 wind farm and "Regulatory Adjustments."
This adjustment accounts for nonrecurring regulatory changes, such as sales of PGE property. Currently, this is a credit.

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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby FoolYap » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 07:21:23

zensui wrote:What about the total KW used by all of you, fellow posters?

Our use for the past year. We cook with electricity, dry clothes with electricity when we don't line-dry, and have a well pump.
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Date         KWH   Bill
May 2007   608      $97.22
Jun 2007   581      $96.26
Jul 2007   551      $88.45
Aug 2007   956      $158.35
Sep 2007   675      $114.44
Oct 2007   707      $119.43
Nov 2007   744      $125.22
Dec 2007   762      $128.03
Jan 2008   436      $77.08
Feb 2008   727      $122.56
Mar 2008   687      $116.31
Apr 2008   551      $95.06
May 2008   593      $101.62
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby frankthetank » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 10:47:04

This was from a January bill, since we've switched to electronic only and i don't have the password to see it.

My TOTAL bill was $45.14 for ELECTRIC only. That was for 429 kWhs. So thats 10.5 cents.

My bill includes 3% for low income assistance. Anyone else have to pay that?

Really should move out to the Pacific northwest. I wouldn't need heat or AC.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby lowem » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 11:05:08

Reporting from the Singapore side of things. Since the latest rate adjustment from Apr 2008 (they do this quarterly), Singapore electricity tariffs are now SGD 23.88 cents per KWh for typical domestic users. At the current USD/SGD forex rate of around 1.36, that works out to around USD 17.56 cents per KWh.

And as I reported in the same posting, on a year-on-year basis that means we're up 26.48%, and we're up 48.69% in 3 years.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby woffman » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 12:39:37

Customer charge 2.50
energy charge per KW .0264
winter rate >1000 kw .0515

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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby TheDude » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 13:00:19

frankthetank wrote:Really should move out to the Pacific northwest. I wouldn't need heat or AC.


A bunch of French winemakers came to the Willamette Valley for a conference in the 80s, David Lett was explaining how the damp but not cold winter climate in the area was essential for growing grapes like pinot noir. It was mid-July, and the temp was 108F...

The snowfall here is usually pretty tame but it's still cold in the winter and hot in the summer.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby Revi » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 13:15:40

Our rates are around 14 cents per KWH. On a small island where we live in the summer they are around 28 cents per KWH making them the most expensive I know of anywhere. It makes solar attractive, though.

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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby frankthetank » Tue 03 Jun 2008, 16:59:20

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Juneau, AK residents have been paying 52 cents/kWh since April 16th. An avalanche took out a bunch of transmission lines or something so they had to switch to diesel! powered generators. OUCH.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby Denny » Tue 03 Jun 2008, 18:12:29

frankthetank wrote:Juneau, AK residents have been paying 52 cents/kWh since April 16th.

Wow! I'd be sharpening my pencil and calculating the payback for using candles and a camp stove at 52 cents.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby Byron100 » Tue 03 Jun 2008, 19:13:30

Okay, just got my Georgia power bill today, so I figured my KWH rate, which works out to 9.2 cents a KWH. My total bill for last month was $54.97...already starting the steep climb to mid-summer highs. Hope to keep the peak power bill this year below $150, though. :)
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Tue 03 Jun 2008, 20:12:47

man what a broad range of KWH rates! thank you all for the responses...seems like 10-12 kwh is the average...that is a guess however.
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Re: What is your KWH rate for your power company?

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Fri 06 Jun 2008, 17:35:20

Well our kwh rate just went up...effective August first we are looking at a 16 percent increase in prices:

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